For once he’s gotten something in his life that he actually earned.
I don’t know what if any consequences this will actually have. But I know that if Trump hates it, then it’s the right thing to do. And judging by his Twitter feed for the past 72 hours, boy howdy does he hate it.
Though we’ve all become somewhat numb to the impact of what’s going on, and this seems destined to die in the senate, I look forward to watching what happens when everyone realizes they are on record, the eye of history is upon them, and the election is barely 11 months away, and they are staking the stability of their cushy re-electable 6-year-terms on a fragile gasbag who can last at most 8 years and probably not even 4.
So he wasn’t impeached in his first term? Are you saying that his Presidency didn’t have an actual term? I agree it wasn’t a full term but it was a term, right?
You do realize, don’t you, that it’s still very much an open question which side will be helped in the election and which side will be hurt by the impeachment?
Support for impeachment among independents never has broken 50%.
Trump will be the first impeached president to stand for re-election, presuming that he’s acquitted by the senate. At that point, I think the collective disgust within middle class America that spurred the midterm results will result in a democratic landslide in 2020.
If they can spin it as an illegal attempted coup, which seems to be their current game, yes. Republican voters appear to be morons who will believe literally anything they’re fed.
I don’t want to assume they’re so dogshit dumb as that, which is why I welcome this opportunity to see the process work itself out. Naturally there are some who will never stop chugging the kool-aid, but fence-sitters are going to take notice as the collapse of this house of cards becomes more imminent.
He was eligible to serve out that term and be elected to a second term, just as Teddy Roosevelt did, and Calvin Coolidge, and Harry Truman, and LBJ. It’s simply an abuse of language to say he was not in his first term.
The distinction I heard is that Trump is the first president up for election who has been impeached. Johnson was never going to get the Republican nomination for the next election.
I predict in the end it will be a wash, neither helping nor hurting anybody, really. Everybody’s already dug in and Trump’s approval goes up and down depending on whatever it currently going on and then stabilizes.
How it will effect 2020 I don’t know. A lot can happen during that time. We don’t even know who he’s running against. I think it will be a very close election.
But we’ve been saying basically this for almost four years now, and Trump and the GOP poll at almost exactly where they did then. So I don’t believe you’re right.
I definitely get that fatigue and I get that skepticism. It feels like trials of flunkies have come and gone (though Manafort is in jail, Flynn is about to be sentenced, Epstein is literally physically dead). It feels like investigative efforts have fallen flat - Mueller turned out to be a milquetoast balls-and-strikes Republican, no different than he ever sold himself - neutered himself and punted the hard questions to Congress.
Of course there’s no guarantee Republicans won’t bury their heads deep in the desert sands of their own ass, to mix some metaphors there, but different things are happening now. Trump is an impeached president. House access to his money-laundering financials are closer than they’ve ever been before, likely decided in June or earlier. The Senate will soon have to go on record in the matter, and Democrats have quite a bit of say in determining the rules of the process. There are a lot of wild cards and any crack in the dam could prove catastrophic.
That’s a long way to say that this is all a process, and it’s an uncertain process, and it’s good that it’s proceeding.
Seriously? They think he abused the power of his office for political gain, but they don’t think he should be impeached? Is this impaired IQ or impaired morality?