They sit next to the door of his bedroom all night *, so why couldn"t they sit next to the door of his jail cell?
I don’t understand why this thread is so long–there are plenty of very easy ways for the Secret Service to guard an incarcerated president.
*(keeping the ‘football’ with nuclear launch codes within reach, I assume)
Yup, and what’s best for America is to treat Trump in exactly the same way as any other felon. He’ll consider the carefully-researched, well-considered sentencing suggestions from the prosecution, and the “nuh-uh because we said so, and you can’t make me” sentencing suggestions from the defense, and come to a decision that’s similar to what other people have gotten for similar crimes, such as the two years that Cohen served.
Working in a prison isn’t some huge punishment. From the agents’ point of view, it’d be very similar to the task of protecting Trump in a hotel room, which is a routine, normal part of the job. At worst, the decor would be more boring.
I think any SS agent who was ever assigned to DJT or any member of his family should be permanently disqualified from ever protecting anyone else in the future. Their presence with the evil one has poisoned their minds and they can’t be trusted with anything for the rest of their lives.
unfortunately, I disagree with you. Trump is not just like any other felon; He’s the candidate for President, and currently leading in many polls to win the election.
What’s best for America is having a President and Commander-in-Chief who is not locked up in jail.
It would be nice to say that justice is blind, and everybody gets the same treatment: black or white, rich or poor. But we all know it isn’t true, whether for crimes of drug dealing on the street or white collar fraud. If Trump loses the election, let’s prove that justice really is blind, and the system works: so lock him up-- after November…
But till then, what’s best for the country is proving that two systems work…the court system, AND the political/election system.
I think Judge Merchan will realize that , while his responsibility is to administrate the court system, he sees that his verdict will not be limited to the courts…it will also affect the entire election system.
What’s best for America is to run the November elections with as much normalcy and stability as possible. So giving Trump a suspended sentence will be a good compromise–the justice system treats him as guilty, while the political system remains functioning unencumbered, free to let the people decide Trump’s future.
(and , to Q.Q.Switcheroo: your link in the post above mine is from the Onion. Cute, and in a funny sort of way, relevant 
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Politics are not a legitimate concern of the courts. Full stop.
The political/election system is being attacked by the GOP. So is the court system. We might have some chance to correct this if lower courts stop putting up with this bullshit.
If justice is not served, we will no longer have a country.
That’s a ridiculously low bar. It means he’s at least 35 years old and a natural born citizen of the United States.
Equal justice under the law demands that this be ignored. Our criminal justice system doesn’t have a popularity contest loophole.
The failure of that lies with the GOP, and not some judge.
It is important that Merchan stay in his lane. He’s limited to sentencing this one felon for these 34 felonies, based on a range provided under the law.
That level of normalcy and stability is even better for America, and it’s the only degree of normalcy and stability over which Merchan has authority.
It would be nice to say that justice is blind??
Yeah, wouldn’t it be a nicer world?
But in the meantime, back in the real world, being rich and white makes it nicer.
And yeah, this trial is a good chance to help correct that.
But we’ll see how Merchan rules on July 11.
(my prediction of the ruling remains: a suspended sentence. )
But my prediction on the verdict was wrong, too. ( I predicted a hung jury)
It would seem that all of us could make ourselves immune from prosecution by filing papers to run for president. Personally, I don’t care if person is running for president or if the polls show him to have 100% of the vote- if the government brings a case and he is found guilty by a jury, then the candidacy factor should have zero impact on the sentence.
If Justice Merchan allows Trump to be out of jail pending his appeals, Trump can still campaign. Am I correct that is how things can work? Appeals will take years. If Trump loses the election, he’ll still be free until he’s exhausted his appeals. If Trump wins the election, the judiciary will not matter.
Might this be a way for Justice Merchan to sentence Trump appropriately, without interfering with the election?
I’ll be mighty damn pissed if “interfering with the election” factors at all into his decision.
I get that! Justice Merchan has already handled Trump differently than most defendants, because Trump has the resources to appeal. If Trump got the maximum sentence, 4 years in jail as I understand it, I’d be pretty satisfied. If Trump has that hanging over his head while he campaigns, that’s different. Dropping the hammer on Trump, while releasing him on bail (or on his own recognizance) while the appeals play out may be a way for the courts to shove this particular camel through the needle. Unless my non-lawyer opinion is wrong, which is likely.
IMO, whatever Justice Merchan does from this point, if Trump wins re-election Seal Team 6 will visit Justice Merchan on January 21, 2025.
False choice. What about 2 years (which somewhat mitigates the “persecution” problem)?
Sounds like a great reason not to vote for him, then. Republicans knew this was coming down the pike when they voted in their primaries, and Americans know it now for the general.
Remember, this wasn’t a trial to interfere with a campaign. It’s a campaign to interfere with a trial. If Merchan lets him walk free in a situation where anyone else would be behind bars, that would be interfering with the election.
What’s best is to have a Commander-In-Chief that would likely not end up in jail if he wasn’t hiding behind an election.
I do not think we are talking about trump being in office and incarcerated.
True. But prisoner safety is. That is why cops get special treatment, etc.
Just the original first appeal. That should be heard before the end of the year. And it is normal, but there are qualifiers, and if trump violates them, all bets are off.
https://www.axios.com/2024/05/31/trump-appeal-guilty-verdict-arguments
The big picture: The appeal process will take several months, making it very unlikely to conclude before November.
** That could actually be good news for Trump. He’d likely remain free on bail in the meantime even if Merchan sentences him to prison. Some legal analysts believe probation is more likely as Trump was convicted of the least serious class of felony under New York law.*
** Serafini says Trump’s odds of overturning the verdict are low. “Most appeals are denied,” he told Axios. “Judges tend to get it right and this was an experienced judge.”*
Illegal order. Mind you, he could be harrassed, certainly.
I would be very surprised if the appeal was concluded by the end of the year. Sentencing is not until July. Then he gets 30 days to file the Notice, then they set a briefing schedule. Then they set a date for oral argument. Then they spend months and months writing the opinion. I’ve seen anywhere from 30 days to 12 months for an opinion to come out after oral argument. Typically, in Washington, it’s around 2 to 6 months (after oral argument). The whole process is usually 14 to 18 months, but can be shorter or longer.
Maybe the NY Appellate Division is faster. I don’t know.
Most estimates I’ve seen are that 18 months is probably the lower end of the scale.