Trump speech live 01/08/2019: follow-along thread.

[HurricaneDitka]

@Whack-a-Mole

The bottom line is Dems cannot capitulate on this whether it is $5 or $5 billion.

Trump is acting like a terrorist (using intimidation against civilians in the pursuit of political aims) and there is a firm policy against negotiating with terrorists. There is a reason for that. If they give Trump his money he will learn all he ever needs to do is shut down the government and wait till he gets what he wants.

Not gonna happen.

Both Ravenman and DrDeth appear to support at least $100M. Chuck has already agreed to $1.6B. In fact …

@Ravenman

And yet, that $1.6 billion got a lot of Democratic votes. …

@steronz

… But the fact that Democrats have already agreed to $1.6B for wall suggests to me that they’re not opposed to it. I’m 100% convinced that, absent Trump’s current tantrum, congress would go back to the negotiating table come up with a bipartisan plan that included <drumroll> the $1.6B for new barrier construction that DHS requested. …

If you’re part of the Pelosi-style “not $1” crowd, you might want to brace yourself for some disappointment from your friends.