Sounds impractical. There’s too much money involved to do it in an arbitrary or incorrect manner, and the records do not exist to do it correctly.
If SCOTUS was seriously considering upholding the law and constitution on tariffs, they would have made sure there was a temporary order blocking tariffs not enacted by Congress.
If SCOTUS wanted to stop someone who grossly violated their oath of office in his first term, it seems to me the thing to do was to stop him from running two years ago. Now it will be much messier to stop him and/or impossible, so they won’t try.
Maybe I’m wrong, but my interpretation of “the end of the United States” is the end of having the President do what SCOTUS says. TACO? Maybe, but IMHO SCOTUS will not risk it.
While businesses paid all of the tariffs, much, probably most, was passed on to people like me.
Refunding to the businesses would hand the Democrats a tremendous campaign issue. While the GOP does hand the Democrats campaign issues from time to time (abortion), do not count on it.
Another issue is that SCOTUS reversing most tariffs would seriously increase the budget deficit. Tax reductions in the Big Beautiful Bill are much greater because of the expectation of tariff revenue.
That right there is the best evidence I have that the tariffs will ultimately fall. Those guys have way better information and legal analysis that any of us could have, and they’re not in the habit of making bad bets. They’re gambling that this ruling will stand.
You sure? I read the statements from Ludnick & Bessent. They were crystal clear that tariffs were paid by the exporter and that there would be no inflationary effect to the US economy & consumer.
And now you grubby ingrates want your cut of the windfall?
8 trillion USD, 347mil USAins = $23,000 and change per person.
Only Congress has the power to impeach Supreme Court Justices.
You’re also assuming that Trump actually cares. If he had a true belief in tariffs, as a remedy for some problem, then he would have sought a legal solution. I.e. he would have developed a plan to scale out tariffs and algorithmically raise and lower them, according to measured rates of trade deficit, nation-to-nation income disparity, and national security necessity. He’d have worked to convince Congress, and he’d have used his political might to push it through.
Like, if I’m really scared of that spider in my room then I go out and get a protective outfit and a magazine to roll up. If I get the spider on a stick and start chasing people around the room going, “He’s gonna getcha! He gonna getcha!” Then I’m probably not actually concerned about the spider.
Actions tell you more than words.
I’m not entirely sure what Trump’s fascination is with tariffs (I think he just picked it up from Ross Perot and doesn’t want to admit to being wrong) but his plays to delay and shrink them - and the fact that he was talked out of them for the first 4 years that he spent in office - would all seem to say that he understands that it’s an idiot move, and all he can hope to gain from it is to use insider trading to at least personally profit of it, however it shakes out politically.
There you go. I thought that immunity and independence was one of the primary rationale’s behind handing out life time appointments. You saying that’s broke too?
However, I do not totally rule out SCOTUS surviving a ruling against Trump’s tariffs.
SCOTUS could forget about the past and tell Trump to eliminate his tariffs with “all deliberate speed,” as they famously did with Brown v Board of Education, resulting in sixteen additional years for deep south dual school systems.
They wouldn’t literally do that. But what if they gave congress a year to put the Trump tariffs into laws?
I am almost disappointed. A year of these grotesque tariffs will result in real inflation and the 2026 election will be a Dem wave. The sheepies won’t care but the independents who voted against Harris because eggs were too expensive might notice.
But if it doesn’t fail, and the fascists on the Supreme Court support Trump’s power to do whatever the hell he wants – which so far they have largely been inclined to do – it will turn him into the worst tyrant and greatest threat to freedom in all of American history.
The sad and frightening reality is that the tariffs are plainly and blatantly illegal because they were enacted by EOs issued under the pretext of a national emergency, and clearly no such emergency exists. If the Supreme Court upholds the tariffs they are blatantly flouting the rule of law and the constitutionally mandated separation of powers.
My guess – and I sure hope I’m wrong – is that the Supreme Court will decline to overturn the tariffs for two reasons. One is that the majority tend to be Trump-supporting nutjobs. But the other, which applies to all but the most conscientious justices, is a desire to keep a low profile and minimize chaos and turmoil. When those two motivations happen to align, well …
I don’t know. Inasmuch as Trump is maneuvering to manipulate economic statistics like job numbers, economic realities may become murky, replaced by Orwellian official declarations about how wonderful everything is. The tariffs are hitting the job markets in both Canada and the US, but most Americans have no idea.
This is so ridiculous. Aside from the question of whether Trump violated the law, raising taxes is always a congressional function and never an emergency.