McConnell thinks his leader is “on to something”.
Wonder if he ever thinks of his future place in history?
As an example, assuming that every vote is going to be important (and they will be) what do you think the most effective way to get young voters/college students, to come out to the polls is? A detailed discussion on the best way to get to a public option, or a piss 'em off and get 'em protesting approach to rile up their young minds, get them angry, and thus encourage them to vote? And such tactics would hopefully influence more than just young voters to do the same.
Fight fire with fire, eh? <shrug> Yeah, that will work. No more grownups in the room at all. Good.
Carry on.
When someone is standing in front you ready to punch you in the face, what do you do, ThelmaLou? They are swinging; the fists are moving towards your face. What do you do?
I have a fundamental disagreement with two of the things you’ve said here. To take the less upsetting: there is no evidence that this fight plays right into his hands. Contrary to the belief of some, Trump’s poll numbers suffer when he goes down this path. They dipped after “shithole countries” and the dipped after Charlottesville. They also dipped after the Access Hollywood tapes as well, although that controversy was a little different. And most importantly, when he targeted the “migrant caravans” in the runup to the 2018 elections his party got creamed. He does best when he is NOT the subject of controversy and criticism. He rebounded from the Access Hollywood tapes when he (at the debate) and the media (thanks to the Comey letter) turned attention away from his behavior and squarely onto Clinton’s emails.
Second- regardless of the strategic implications, the idea that people should stop fighting for and defending oppressed minorities is repellent to me. Oppressed minorities have faced more difficult obstacles and more intense hatred than what they currently face. They needed allies in those fights, and they need them in this one, period.
Which is exactly why Pelosi is holding off the impeachment proceedings. She wants to be able to throw the whole fucking book at him!
No-she realizes that throwing the entire Encyclopedia Britannica at him at this point would be useless when the Republicans won’t even rebuke him for being openly racist. She chickened out waiting for a safe “sure thing”, and now she has nothing.
Great Colbert moment. Also, later, about how Lindsey Graham was spayed sometime after 2016.
(FWIW, I’m with Bo and not Thelma on this one — but I appreciate Thelma’s position).
No one has ever defeated fascism by backing away from fights.
The wheel grinds ever so slowly…
Right now, the Trump administration is denying every House effort at oversight. They are providing no witnesses, releasing no documents. The various committees are challenging this obstruction in court, winning, and then having to survive appeals - and this pattern will undoubtedly continue up to the Supreme Court.
If the House had empowered an impeachment investigation six months, a year ago, this would still be the same pattern; Trump’s lawyers are actually arguing that Congress has no Constitutional authority to oversee the Executive. But here, the Administration would be denying documents and witnesses to the impeachment investigation. This lurching from court-to-court to force the Administration to comply would drag out the investigation (as is happening now), except this would make the impeachment investigation look helpless and incompetent.
I can see a strategy where the relevant committees hash out all of this legal wrangling prior to the impeachment investigation. Get the courts to rule that yes, the relevant committees do have oversight authority and the subpoenas have to be obeyed, thus, when the impeachment investigation starts, there will no longer be any question that the subpoenas have to be complied with. People get bored and impatient waiting for the legalities to be settled. Getting the courts to rule that Congressional oversight requires Executive compliance would go a long way to help “grease the skids” of an impeachment inquiry.
From here:
Shoot the hostage.
Oh, wait, wrong movie. Never mind.
^^^^ 
Oh, that’s fantastic! Good for Stephen Colbert!
“He can stay. He can go. He can be impeached, or voted out in 2020. But removing him will not remove the infrastructure of an entire party that supported him; the dark money that funded him; the online radicalization that drummed his army; nor the racism he amplified and reanimated.”
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
All those investigations have been called off?
I dunno about not responding to his horribleness. To the contrary, I think Hillary went a little too far to avoid confrontation, trying to take a “higher road.” I would’ve loved to have heard her turn around at the debate and say, “Get the fuck away from me, you creepy stalker!”
Of course, you want to be careful about extending the criticism to his mouthbreathing supporters. As accurate as it might be to characterize them as “deplorables” “clinging to their guns and bibles”, such words do not play well in today’s media.
Call Trump what he is - an ignorant, lazy, classless, sleezebag coward. An embarrassment to have as the leader of ANY country - not to mention the US. And then pivot to your platform. The office of the president might be owed SOME respect and deference, but not this douchebag.
All those investigations won’t amount to squat. The Republicans have already showed us what they will tolerate from him to stay in power, and he has shown them that outright lying and racism is a viable path to success. I am trying to imagine what any investigation that is not buried in bullshit could possibly reveal that would cause the Republicans to put Country before Party.
I have no problem at all with the idea that this is not a “grown-up” way to conduct an election, or a system of governance for that matter. I’m simply saying that if you want to win this election, this is what you should do.
An utterly devastating attack from The Atlantic, on the Democrats and what their failure to stand up to Trump could mean for the future of the country. My quotes below are from the conclusion. I do a disservice to the author to quote them here, as the rest of the article demands to be read first. I would encourage those who believe that the Democrats should stand down from Trump’s attack on the “Squad” to read this, and see if it will change their minds, or at least encourage them to rethink their position.