Trump won't be the Republican party nominee in 2024

Well, if he is imprisoned- even under close house arrest- for a whole year- campaigning would be really tough.

Felony conviction would seem to be on a different level than, say, a press conference gaffe or a flat debate performance. The conviction doesn’t strike me as something that gets all that much smaller with distance. If it matters to a voter, it keeps on mattering.

I think that the only legitimate way it could help him would be in further galvanizing his true-believer MAGA base, getting them to continue to donate to him, and ensuring that he gets high voter turnout from them in swing states.

It can, but there’s no way it’s a net positive. The MAGA folks energized are not going to outweigh the Republican voters who weren’t thrilled with him or the independents he’s desperately going to need to win swing states.

This assumes that the money will go to GOTV activities, as opposed to paying off the State of New York/EJC.

Of the Republicans in the House and the Senate that supported Trump during the trial, are there any that have backed away from supporting him now that he has been convicted?

That mythical creature exists only in our imaginations.

I agree. Plus, this conviction is not something that just happens and is over. There will be sentencing right before the convention, etc. etc.

Moreover, this is the biggest gut punch that Trump has ever received in his life. The first time he has ever been held accountable for his crimes in a way that is meaningful to him (perhaps the recent fraud judgment, since it was so large, is a distant second). The scumbag is now wounded. I think he’s going to unravel and spiral and disintegrate in short order.

The fraud case was quite a gut punch to Trump because it hit him right where he lives. He’s been telling us for years what a successful and wealthy businessman he is and the trial showed the world this wasn’t the case. Instead of a saavy businessman it exposed him as a grifter who was incapable of conducting any sort of business without fraud.

Good point!

And violent insurrections.

I dont know- are there any?

Well, just a few tourists egged on by Antifa. :crazy_face: :roll_eyes:

I ask questions when I want to know the answers. Asking them when I already know the answers seems kind of stupid to me.

Not that I’m aware of.

Larry Hogan, the Republican who was formerly the governor of Maryland, and who is now running for the Senate, is one of the few remaining moderate Republicans at the national level. After Thursday’s verdict, Hogan posted on X:

Moments later, a Trump campaign advisor, Chris LaCivita, posted:

In an interview that evening:

So, I strongly suspect that all of the GOPers who attended the trial to support Trump are absolutely going to stay in line, as that’s why they were there in the first place.

None that I’ve heard of. Mo Brooks was speaking out against Trump, but he’s been speaking out against Trump since 2022, apparently.

Doubtful. Instead, they’re doubling down.

Senate conservatives vow to oppose DOJ funding boost, Joe Biden nominees (thehill.com)

The eight senators who signed the statement say they won’t vote to confirm the administration’s political and judicial appointees or allow expedited consideration on the Senate floor of Democratic bills not directly related to public safety.

I think that puts to bed any idea that Trump won’t be the Republican Party nominee in 2024. “The line they just will not cross” does not exist.

It’s going to be a loonnnggg month and a half to the convention…

This has ever been the weakness of the argument that “they” will stop Trump from getting the nomination. Who is “they”? Like, name them.

As I said…