Right. Diplomatic overtures are clear evidence of treason. As opposed to calling for Russian hacking, refusing to enforce duly-passed and bipartisan sanctions, doing nothing about said hacking, denying that it exists in the face of all evidence to the contrary, attempting to take down the institutions that are investigating all of the above…and that’s just scratching the surface.
Attempted distraction denied. Next…
Right, right. Appeasing the greatest geopolitical threat US faced, ignoring (and laughing at) much smarter people who spelled out for the imbecile the danger Russia posed were just “diplomatic overtures”.
You have, let’s be charitable, an ad hoc definition of begging.
Can you at least quote correctly? Obama was observing that the dynamics of a campaign constrain the actions an incumbent can take without giving the other party’s attack dogs some fresh meat, and that those constraints loosen or lift after the election. That *should *be fuckin’ obvious.
As for Romney “knowing” the world better than Obama, this is a guy whose first diplomatic initiative as nominee was to go piss off the British. Some of us didn’t think that was even possible.
You’re welcome.
If it’s proven that there is no collusion/conspiracy? OK I’ll let him off on that.
He’s still on the hook for Obstruction of Justice (he admitted it live on national TV). And god knows what else. (Bribery, money laundering, possible misuse of election funds to pay off a porn star, using his political position for personal gain [I forget what that act is called]). And basically failing to fulfill his duties as president. How many posts are vacant? The list is long.
Not to mention that congress can impeach for just about any reason. Being an insulting, narcissistic, misogynistic, racist moron that cares about nothing other than himself is enough for me to impeach. He is an insult to American ideals and making a laughing stock of us to the rest of the world. How about you Arizona Mike? If he is cleared of what amounts to treason, are you going to give him a pass on everything else?
Hey, hey hey. No playing favorites. trump has pissed off the British, the Australians and Germany. And CANADA for gods sake.
And Mexico of course (they are just mostly laughing at us though).
…claiming to be tougher than Obama on Russia while not enforcing sanctions…
I don’t think he was colluding because Gepetto does not consult Pinocchio.
And Trump very likely does not believe he was laundering money, he believes that rich Russian investors shrewdly realize what a real estate genius he is. Sure, some of them have rather a rough history, but that’s how you know these are hard-nosed, no-nonsense people!
Who would conspire with a dim-witted motormouth? “The bodies are buried in Paul Manafort’s back yard, but don’t tweet that!”. Ten minutes, max.
You mean, Donald Trump refused to beg Putin for more space, while launching a missile strike against Russia’s closest ally, something that his Russia-colluding predecessor refused to do repeatedly, even after drawing the laughable ‘red line’, which clearly signaled to Putin that Obama can (and should ) be bitchslapped at will?
By the way, all that begging that Obama did…Did Putin actually end up giving him more space?
It looked to me like Vladimir Putin just laughed at Barry the Nincompoop and TOOK more space, by invading US close ally Ukraine.
There’re 2 possibilities here: either Obama directly colluded with Russia (remember his and Hillary’s laughable “reset” policy with the greatest geopolitical threat US faced, coupled with Clinton’s Foundation inept attempts to shake down the Russians out of cool half a mil) or he was the most incompetent and gullible President ever.
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Eh, that’s a given. If the WH kitchen runs out of double-scoops of vanilla ice cream, it’s Obama’s fault.
Mueller is just the beginning of the Trump investigations.
It isn’t like when Mueller is done we can wrap everything up and never discuss it again.
We still need to investigate Russian money being laundered through the republican party via groups like the NRA (supposedly they got $30 million in Russian money to fund republican races).
We need to investigate all of Trump’s sex crimes and sexual behavior. All the women he paid off, the rumors of forced abortions, the sexual abuse allegations.
All the crimes his administration has committed in office (security clearance issues, not using secure communications, emoluments abuses, etc).
If a democrat wins in 2020, I hope they appoint another special counsel to investigate all this crap. And if the democrats win one house of congress in 2018 they need to investigate these things and pass their findings onto law enforcement.
If the GOP can investigate BenGhazi 7 times, all this stuff deserves at minimum 10 investigations each. Plus any other crime Trump, his family, his administration or the GOP committed.
That’s probably a safe bet.
I’m genuinely curious: Have you watched or read something that led you to this conclusion? Or is it based off more of a general sense of Trump’s overall character without specific evidence of a crime available?
It’s really got very little to do with his honesty (or lack thereof). I just haven’t personally seen any evidence that even begins to approach the “clear and convincing” standard I gave earlier. That’s a good thing, in my eyes, because it means Mueller’s investigation isn’t leaking (if they have such evidence), but I think it means we’re going to have to wait for the investigation to end … unless there’s something I’ve missed that you think I should be aware of.
Wait wait wait… are you under the impression that the only thing Mueller is investigating is the possible collusion? I don’t think there was much, if any, outright Collusion. But there sure as hell was Obstruction of Justice and probably some Money Laundering at some point too.
Same question for you: what’s your basis for this belief?
Real estate sold to Russian Oligarchs
Thank goodness for collusion. If only “Great Leaders” through history would have colluded, the masses would have been spared much torment.
The idea that the charges in the indictment amount to anything more than trivial polliticking is a slap in the face to the armies of highly paid campaign consultants, seasoned “operatives”, and mass-broadcast pundits who participated in the election.
This is probably why there is so much anxiety in the mainstream and leftist media and those plugged into it. The idea that they and those like them are not pulling every string is definitely an existential threat to their dreams of domination. The “experts” think they were upstaged by the Unanointed.
The truth is, the vast majority of people just don’t care about what the political “experts” think.
The US initiated a coup in Ukraine and Russia secured its holding in Crimea. The US retaliated with imposing sanctions and backing nazi militias who made war on ethnic Russians, just like the old times.
The rationale for probable cause to develop evidence is that the Trump organization engaged in a pattern of business dealings that suggest money-laundering. More below:
Sales of Trump properties suggestive of money laundering.
There’s a potential for Russian leverage here
So what we have is probable cause to gather evidence. House Republicans are doing everything in their power to thwart the evidence-gathering process, so any Republican calls to “show me the evidence” are easily seen as a joke. However, if Mueller’s special prosecution is doing any due diligence at all, then they are in the process of gathering such evidence.
That’ll be the missile strike Trump gave Russia (and thus Syria) advance warning of, against an airbase that was still operational and launching attacks hours afterwards?
Wow…he really showed them.
…according to Russian trolls, but not actual reality. Russia didn’t “secure its holdings in Crimea”; it “secured” the entire fucking Crimea.