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But it has been acted on. From 2011, but I doubt things have changed much since then:

So: The border has not been secured against drug smuggling – but, WRT illegal immigrants, there has been some improvement. More importantly, after spending all that money on it, obviously the border is already as secure as it is ever going to get. All that reasonably can be done to control the border is being done. (A wall running from the Pacific to the Gulf of Mexico is not a reasonable thing.)

To be able to work, illegal immigrants generally have to break Arizona laws against using false identification. Joe Arpaio - Wikipedia

You just can’t stand it when somebody else poaches that, can you?! :smiley:

Sure, your link says that, but it also says:

Isn’t most of that fairly well outside the scope of a sheriff’s duties?

No, he would feature Joe Arpaio, who is just as racist but safer. There is really no meaningful distinction that can be drawn here between “anti-illegal immigrant sentiment” and racism.

That’s an odd thing to say. You might reasonably argue that we have reached or passed the point where the benefits stop outweighing the costs. But to say that the border could not possibly be any more secure? That’s a weird, extreme, magical thinking kind of conclusion.

I have certainly never advocated that High School sports coaches teach their athletes to react to hecklers with “a bloody bone-breaking beatdown”.

Just because you are colorblind does not mean that blue and green do not exist.

Wrong illegal aliens.

Identity theft is a state and local issue as well as a federal issue. Unless you believe sherriffs should not protect their citizens from identity theft. National security is also a federal function, yet help in preventing terrorist attacks is appreciated and encouraged, as is help dealing with the drug trade. Help is not wanted in immigration because the federal government does not want the laws enforced well. But that’s okay, because illegal immigration tends to be intermixed with crimes states do have jurisdiction over(identify theft, driving without a license, human trafficking, drug smuggling).

Of course that is unacceptable – but telling them to just take it, as you apparently would have the coach do, is no less so. We’re not talking about “heckling,” we’re talking about race-baiting, and nobody has to take that.

And even I can agree with many of those efforts, (except the drug war, what you mentioned there is yet another reason why we should end the stupid war) but what Hank Beecher and you are ignoring is that Arpaio got into legal problems because legal Hispanic residents and even citizens were arrested or stopped and their rights affected by those efforts, Arpaio is now into more legal problems because he resorted to contempt of court when he openly avoided what was agreed with Arpaio to prevent those abuses from happening.

Arpaio now got into even worse legal problems when he investigated the very same judge’s wife in his case in an attempt of intimidating or set up an automatic conflict of interest to make the case go away.

Just about then the Republican senators from Arizona advised the candidates to stay away from Arpaio. But Trump just loved what he saw, the media also has just about ignored the joining of the hips of Trump and Arpaio and remembering what Obama had to do to deal with unfortunate associations, seeing Arpaio get a big welcome to Trump rallies does tell me that conservatives like you are indeed trying to tell minorities that it is raining when they are really peeing on us. (Obama had to leave his church and condemn reverend Wright just for words that he said, while Arpaio already abused the rights of many).

:rolleyes:

Nope, as you demonstrate later:

And yes, no thanks accepted from you then, because I already posted this before in another thread to reply to about your sorry attempt there at twisting the actual positions of a candidate.

So yes, I don’t expect you to change your sorry rhetoric, but I expect many others to see how bad your ignorance is and how dumb then that bit of yours about “It’s these kinds of whacked priorities that cause more and more of us to want no association at all with most lefties any more.” was based on ignorance and bad sources.

I said it was beside the point whether or not Trump himself is a racist. I’m saying he appeals to the racist segment of the GOP base. I remember one poll in which 16% of Trump supporters said they believed white people were a superior race. I don’t know if that accounts for all the racist Trump supporters, maybe some people didn’t answer the pollster honestly, maybe there are other kinds of racists, I dunno. In any case, we can only say that racists are a portion of Trump’s support. But I think he has courted those voters- note that he has a higher percentage of self-professed white supremacists among his supporters than any other candidate, driven IMHO by assertions like, “Mexicans are rapists” or “We should ban Muslims from entering the country.” Seriously, which candidate’s message do you think is going to resonate most with this guy?

I don’t think Trump boils down to just racism. We can debate Americans’ interests, approaches to security, immigration, the economy and all the rest. Trump isn’t one dimensional, neither is the GOP base. But racists prefer Trump, and that does not appear to me to be accidental.

No doubt, but that has fuck-all to do with immigration.

Actually, you kinda do. It’s illegal to respond to words with force, and you will be subject to arrest for assault if you hit someone, no matter how offensive they are being.

Saying things to get into your opponents head is a basic tactic of competitive sports. And teaching students to keep their cool when this happens is a basic duty of a teacher/coach.

Here’s a little something from my favorite parody site:

http://harddawn.com/bill-oreilly-irish-terrorist-quisling/

Encouraging racism has no place in high school or any other place.

No, they don’t get to hit in retaliation for non-violent verbal race-baiting. But neither do they have to take it. That’s why the coach did the right thing by handling it administratively – not reacting with violence and not brushing it off. And that teaches the girls to follow the coach’s example in the future. Isn’t that exactly how we should want people in general behaving – standing up for themselves, but in an orderly rule-of-law sort of way wherever possible? That’s a lot more important than: