People don’t expect every psychologist to repeat Pavlov’s experiment every time somebody asks a question.
Skyscraper dynamics? Yeah, civil engineers have been studying that for a while and have performed the experiments. Like Pavlov, people don’t repeat old experiments every time somebody asks a question. Especially when those people are too lazy to study the old experiments or even do the basic research to realize they’ve already been done.
Before asking that new experiments get done, maybe you should check that they’ve haven’t already been done.
I would like to know how much, if any, of our money spent on the United Nations is jeopardized in light of the establishment’s talk of funding shortfalls for our own entitlements like Social Security or Medicare?
I think the effort is to call into question why the NIST reports ignored evidence of explosives.
I want to know why the controlled demolition of Building 7 looked more conventional. It did not display the black pyroclastic clouds like the twin towers.
According to this, the amount spent on the UN by the U.S., if the President’s requests for FY2013 were granted, came to $4.236 billion, which is 0.012% of the federal budget. If we need to cut something, how about our massive defense spending?
So the planes flying into the buildings were all special effects or a secret drug given to thousands of witnesses?
How were the tons of explosives brought into the buildings without being seen? How about all the prep work for demolition and the miles of det cord or electrical cable?
How did the planes not disrupt all the explosives?
Because if it becomes about your long list of elaborate conspiracy theories this thread will turn into an unholy mess going off into an untold number of directions at the same time.
Could we have your list, please?
Also, “correct”? I didn’t say anything about there not being any pro-“big government” CTs. In fact, I didn’t even use the term “big government”.
That’s pretty much the mark of a conspiracy theorist. One wild theory begets another. Have you read Carl Sagan’s book, The Demon Haunted World? He addresses this syndrome in it.
I highly recommend the book, available world-wide.
Hooray! Ignorance fought! Maybe, just maybe, there’s a chance of helping this guy out of the rut of CT thinking he’s got himself stuck in-
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Never fuckin’ mind.
We’ve got some work to do… If you make that thread on evolution, I can help clear up some misconceptions (and for you to fall for that bullshit “tornado in a junkyard” analogy means we have a lot of ignorance left to fight).
Well, it’s a start.
However, a truther is considerably more likely to also be a birther, and vice versa. Why? Because both theories rely on the same essential train of thought that all conspiracies rely on: deny all available evidence, then claim that there’s no evidence. Hold up anything counter to the establishment as reliable because it’s contrary to the establishment; denounce anything supporting the establishment as unreliable because it’s supporting the establishment. It’s a part of crank magnetism.
Look. At this point, the logic used to claim that Obama’s birth certificate was forged can be used to claim that the moon did not exist. That’s how far down the rabbit hole we’ve gone. And it’s just tiring. Especially when “truthers” all too often have bad information or are lacking important pieces or just straight-up deny that the evidence is present to begin with. For example, your excerpt from Kennedy’s speech - you had completely wrong information, and yet you didn’t spend the time looking it up and checking it.
Also, know why these terms are seen as derogatory? Because the beliefs these people hold are so contrary to observable reality, so looney at times, that it’s impossible to take them seriously.
It is. There’s a reason we call these people ““truthers”” and not “truthers”. They’re searching for “truth” in the same way that Ken Ham is - they already know, before any evidence is present, exactly what the “truth” is, and they will bend all available evidence to support their preconceptions.
Good question. Here’s what you do: you don’t let this question stand; you spend a little time researching. You look into the official reports, examine the data gathered by actual scientific authorities. You examine whatever solid evidence you can find. Here’s the explanation which most authorities on the subject have concluded matches the evidence best: the design of the towers, while revolutionary, basically meant that the type of pancaking and sudden collapse that happened was almost guaranteed to happen if the center was struck by an object of that mass, velocity, and explosive capability. Nothing. NOTHING. Requires the invention of a massive conspiracy planting detonators containing an as-of-yet unknown substance (no, “nanothermite” is not actually a thing). It’s really that simple. It doesn’t help that many of the resources commonly used (Loose Change, anyone?) are notoriously riddled with complete misinformation.
We did ask those questions! And we found solid, reliable answers with strong evidence backing them. We examined alternative hypotheses but found them extremely lacking.
You are aware that there are approximately 3 people hunting for work for every one job opening, right? Because this is a pretty important piece of information to have when throwing around claims like “many Americans are lazy bums content to mooch off of welfare for as long as possible”.
What, you mean people like Happy Lendervedder? Seriously, spend a couple of minutes and read that thread. It might be eye-opening for you. I mean, you’ve shown that you’re at least capable of admitting you’re wrong. Maybe we’ll be able to wean you of more of your irrational beliefs. The fact is, most people on unemployment don’t want to be there. They simply can’t find work!
If you can provide a link to one that you think is relevant, I would love to see it. But that would be getting off the truther, conspiracy topic.
It just persents a problem if some people are just called “conspiracy theorists” by other people who don’t get the physics. But then if the majority of people are wrong about 9/11 then that creates a HUGE problem.
