I live in the UAE and when traveling to, from or within the USA, regardless if I show my US passport or UAE driver’s license for ID, my bag gets searched every time and I get a TSA note… my bag always contains the same stuff, clothes, books, toothpaste etc. nothing odd (except pretzels when I am leaving the USA).
At least (touch wood) nobody has ever stolen my pretzels.
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I live in the UAE and when traveling to, from or within the USA, regardless if I show my US passport or UAE driver’s license for ID, my bag gets searched every time and I get a TSA note… my bag always contains the same stuff, clothes, books, toothpaste etc. nothing odd (except pretzels when I am leaving the USA).
At least (touch wood) nobody has ever stolen my pretzels.
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Maybe they think you’re trying to kill Bush?
So don’t pack anything that is thick, has a lot of wires and batteries and your bag more than likely won’t be alarmed and will be passed through with no trouble.
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I always think what a challenging job this must be now. Cell phone, laptop, iPod, two headsets, three chargers, LAN cable, USB connector - no, average traveller isn’t travelling with anything that has lots of wires or batteries.
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I have to take some exception to what diggleblop posted about when bags are opened. I often have to travel auto parts, and with various types of tools, both mechanical and electronic. Every single time I have tools or auto parts in my suitcase, it gets opened.
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Sometimes stuff that has been sitting around where there are gasoline vapors will trigger the explosives swab. I’ve seen recommendations that you not store your suitcases in the garage because of that.
Whenever I travel they almost always do a wipe test on my CPAP, sometimes just on the outside of the case but the last year or so on the machine itself. Once they got a positive response, and I got questioned about where I’d been keeping it. Eventually they decided I wasn’t smuggling explosives and let me through security.
[QUOTE=Rick] F.U. tell your friend that he and the other guys that work with him rock.
I have to take some exception to what diggleblop posted about when bags are opened. I often have to travel auto parts, and with various types of tools, both mechanical and electronic. Every single time I have tools or auto parts in my suitcase, it gets opened. I have returned from trips with 4 or 5 of those “we opened your suitcase” slips. When I don’t have auto parts or tools, my bag never gets opened.
No nitrates, as they swab my laptop case and I never get flagged, so it is just what they see on the x-ray.
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This is how sensitive the Ionizer is for explosives.
Imagine RFK stadium in DC. Now, fill it with white golf balls, then put one purple golf ball in the middle somewhere.
Now, the ionizer can sniff out that one purple golf ball in 20 seconds.
This is what it does to explosives. The ionizer detects ANYTHING that is flammable and can be used to make a bomb. Oddly though, anything except gun powder.
But as I said, things may have changed since I worked there. The only time we opened CHECKED LUGGAGE was when it alarmed on the xray machine AND alarmed on the swab ionizer (sniffer).
There ARE substances that are in garages that may make the ionizer alarm. It’s a VERY sensitive machine. It needs to be calibrated AND cleaned every two hours.
Rick, no, it’s not just what they see on the xray machine. Unfortunately I used to work for TSA at Dulles in VA, I know. I’m pretty sure they’re not gonna stop using the ionizer. No offense or anything. Just wanted to let you know that they definitely WILL swab your suitcase before opening it. Once it alarms for explosives, then they open it.
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I always think what a challenging job this must be now. Cell phone, laptop, iPod, two headsets, three chargers, LAN cable, USB connector - no, average traveller isn’t travelling with anything that has lots of wires or batteries.
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My last trip flying the friendly skies was Thanksgiving.
My laptop carryon backpack contained the following:
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[li] One laptop, complete with mouse (in a baggie with the cord coiled) and wired power supply (the one with the fat, thick black box power box in the middle of the cord (also wrapped and coiled in a baggie)[/li][li] Two coiled cables for network access (in separate baggies).[/li][li] Two coiled phone cords (separate baggies)[/li][li] A small, external hard drive with USB cable (coiled, baggie)[/li][li] A digital camera, with two sets of rechargeable batteries and two plugin chargers (baggies, again).[/li][li] A dozen ordinary alkaline batteries loosely packed in their own baggie.[/li][li] An iPod, complete with ear buds.[/li][li] Two bags of Dove Dark chocolate squares.[/li][li] A heavy, thick paperback tech manual (about 1,500 pages)[/li][li] Cell phone.[/li][li] A high-tech MagLite-type flashlight with titanium case (and spare batteries).[/li][/ul]
All of it tossed in the backpack and spread through four separate compartments. A bizzaro mess when X-rayed. Not a problem going through security four times in three separate airports on the trip. However, last Thanksgiving I carried roughly the same but got stopped because my key ring has two, original Vietnam War era P38s. The snot nose TSA agent went nuts until his supervisor looked at them, laughed out loud, and pretty much said move along, nothing to see here.
According to an article in the Atlanta Journal Constitution, TSA says it is not responsible for stolen items but will consider complaints on a case by case basis.
My husband and I have probably been lucky or something, but even relatively easy to steal items like multiple DVDs have been left in our bags after searches. Before one trip, my husband was packing at the last minute and just crammed his clothing in his big duffle without folding. His bag was searched and when he opened it on arrival, the TSA “we searched your bag” note was atop stacks of his now neatly-folded clothing!
I bought a set and each time they were missing from the bag the first time I used them. There was no sign that the bag had been searched. Apparently TSA took them off just to be pricks.
I bought a set and each time they were missing from the bag the first time I used them. There was no sign that the bag had been searched. Apparently TSA took them off just to be pricks.
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I’ve used TSA locks on several trips over the last few years. I started with 10 locks for all of our luggage, and have only lost one.
I think after hearing these stories that I would UPS myself anything important/expensive if I was flying somewhere for any length of time.
Or make sure I can carry it on.
I’m surprised with the digital age as it is that the TSA isn’t made to take a photo of every item confiscated from luggage. This would make it extremely easy for the traveler to ID any items removed from luggage.
Heck, the photos would be time stamped so they would only have to look through that days’ or hours’ photos to find a match for your item.
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A friend of mine recently flew across the country. In her checked luggage, she had placed a set of earrings. These were not fancy jeweled things, but just complicated earrings of the sort called “talons”.
When she got to the end of her journey, there was a little slip of paper in her luggage that informed her that the TSA found it necessary to confiscate an item in her luggage - no description, no reasons, nothing. The only item missing from her luggage was this set of earrings.
Does someone in her situation have ANY recourse? I can hear you say “screw this, those earrings maybe cost $60”. OK, fine. However, if she has no recourse, does this mean that a TSA employee looking through luggage has the freedom to help him/herself to a $3000 set of diamond earrings, without any reason other than that they wanted them, and no recourse for the passenger?
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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My wife, a TSA until two months ago, says:
–The TSA doesn’t confiscate items from checked luggage. That’s the airline’s job.
–The TSA does search checked luggage. When they do so they leave a note saying they searched it. If something needs confiscating, they get an airline representative to come do it.
–From checked luggage, pretty much the only kind of thing that would be confiscated is stuff that can explode. (She also mentioned offhand that there’s a limit to how much dry ice you can have in checked luggage. I don’t know if there are any other exceptions to the “only things that can explode” rule.) She says explicitly that there is no reason earrings would ever be confiscated. (Then she added “unless they were bullets.”)
I used to have many friends that worked with TSA at George Bush Intercontinental Airport. It isn’t TSA I worry about, it’s the baggage handlers and the people that clean the planes. SOP was to empty any wallets found on the plane of cash or valuables, then wedge it in the seat for a flight attendant at the next stop to find and return. A friend once found $2000 in a folded up newspaper and was told that TSA won’t accept it because whoever lost it could claim there was more than $2000. She kept it of course.
My favorite though was when my ex-best-friend found $12000 a few years ago in a large envelope and simply pocketed it. With sums that high you needn’t worry that it will be claimed since it’s probably drug money of some sort. He’s no longer my friend.
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The ionizer detects ANYTHING that is flammable and can be used to make a bomb. Oddly though, anything except gun powder.
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Wrong.
I did some training for the LAPD a few years ago and was at their new Academy in west L.A. I was not directly involved with the bomb squad in any way. However, many people who touched door knobs and railings that I touched handled firearms on the range.
I got gunpowder on my hands, which got onto the gear. I was also training several people who touched things that had gunpowder on them from the range.
The swab caught it and I was flagged for having it on my case.
I did some training for the LAPD a few years ago and was at their new Academy in west L.A. I was not directly involved with the bomb squad in any way. However, many people who touched door knobs and railings that I touched handled firearms on the range.
I got gunpowder on my hands, which got onto the gear. I was also training several people who touched things that had gunpowder on them from the range.
The swab caught it and I was flagged for having it on my case.
Just gunpowder. From the range.
Cartooniverse
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You were touching used gunpowder. I think that is the difference.