Tudor Rose Help

[FaerieBeth]

Greetings unto the wise and mighty populace of the SDMB.

OKay, sorry…I need some help with the traditional image of the Tudor rose. I’m helping some children make representations of this image for an event this fall.

On this 10 petaled rose are the outermost petals white with red inside? Or red with white inside?

I’ve seen it done mostly with the red on the outside, but I seem to remember once reading a description of the image that stated the outermost petals were white.

Any Tudor scholars out there willing to lend some advice?

[LifeOnWry]

I’ve only ever seen red outside, white inside. I’m no Tudor scholar, but I AM a Rennie, so that should be worth something.

FTR, the all-white rose is the York rose, and the all-red rose is the Lancashire rose.

[Priam]

@LifeOnWry

I’ve only ever seen red outside, white inside. I’m no Tudor scholar, but I AM a Rennie, so that should be worth something.

FTR, the all-white rose is the York rose, and the all-red rose is the Lancashire rose.

That’s how I’ve always seen it, too. Though to nitpick, the red rose should be called a Lancastrian rose.

[LifeOnWry]

@Priam

That’s how I’ve always seen it, too. Though to nitpick, the red rose should be called a Lancastrian rose.

Yes, thank you. I was almost certain I didn’t have that right, but the more I looked at it, the less sure I was what it was supposed to be.

[BrainGlutton]

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tudor_rose:

In heraldry, the rose is depicted as white on red if placed on a field of a colour, or red on white if placed on a field of a metal (gold or silver), due to the law of tincture.

[FaerieBeth]

@LifeOnWry

I’ve only ever seen red outside, white inside.

Thanks for the help, LifeOnWry! This is an image of the white outside version.

A little research on my part has yielded this cite with the following info:

The Tudor Rose is usually shown as a white rose set inside a red rose (although the reverse is sometimes seen).

So I guess I could use either or both?

[FaerieBeth]

@BrainGlutton

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tudor_rose:

Awesome, BrainGlutton! Thank you!

Although, now I’m curious about the multi-petaled one they use as an icon on the Tidor History pages

[gotpasswords]

Multi-petaled? As in more than five petals per “ring?” Can’t say I’ve run across any.

FWIW, we’ve got a collection of roses ranging from really, really basic to really, really complex. The fancy one on the opening page is actaully a photo of a wood carving. Click it, and the “who are we?” rose on the next page to find more, including the simple, more kid-friendly one at the bottom.