Did she call anyone who fights for the rights of homosexuals a bigot or just someone who is a religious bigot?
Did you link to the wrong cite. Your cite shows her standing up to religious bigotry.
Give up-go find another candidate that the Republicans can push over like a domino.
Hardly. It shows her to accuse those standing up against religious bigotry to be religious bigots, which is stupid and wrong. Opposition to bigotry does not make one “bigoted” against bigotry.
“Buescher was asked about his public statements during his 2014 campaign, his position on issues such as abortion as well as his membership in the Knights of Columbus, a Catholic fraternal society.
The organization has in recent years taken steps into the political realm, funding anti-same-sex marriage initiatives in a number of states.”
What she calls “religious bigotry” is people saying that you shouldn’t be allowed to discriminate against gays. If your religion says that you must discriminate against gays, then your religion is bad, and people should speak out against it.
Czarcasm, I don’t think WillFarnaby supports Gabbard because she’d be an easy opponent for Republicans. I think he supports her because she’s a bigoted, pro-war authoritarian, and WillFarnaby loves all of those things.
I think you are conflating your disdain for Gabbard with my observation that aloha is a concept that people in Hawaii genuinely take seriously. Make no mistake, I think Gabbard has dreadful beliefs, and she has zero business running for president. None of that negates the validity of aloha as an idea.
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Chronos is correct.
In up is down, black is white WillFarnaby world…
Clinton was more Hawkish than Trump in 2016.
NATO is a warlike organization as opposed to the most successful peacekeeping organization of all time.
The North started the Civil war.
And Lincoln is the worst president in the history of the USA.
Missed the edit window: what I really wanted to say is that my objection is to reducing aloha to “an over-priced coffee mug from the Honolulu Hilton gift shop.” Gabbard grew up in Hawaii, so it is virtually impossible that she doesn’t have a deeper understanding of the word. But believe me, I am NOT trying to defend her, or her remarks about the LGBTQ community, in any way, shape or form.
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It can, especially when following a “Book ‘em, Danno” from Hawaii Five-O’s Detective Steve McGarrett.
I don’t back her candidacy, but I believe one can be anti-war without being a pacifist, especially given the US military’s experiences since 2001. Here’s Wiki on her military record; looks like she’s primarily a military police officer and trainer: Tulsi Gabbard - Wikipedia
Knock it off. If you want to take shots at other posters, or bring up unrelated items to take shots at other posters, do it in the Pit.
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I think you’re conflating disparagement of aloha-branded coffee cups with a disparagement of Hawaiian customs. So there we are.
This thread is about Gabbard’s background and her membership in various organizations. This thread is not about which candidate is antiwar or not antiwar. Drop the war related hijack.
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Tee hee. I like it.
Objection first: It’s hard to read Miller’s comment maybe don’t don’t take your speech cues off an over-priced coffee mug from the Honolulu Hilton gift shop as anything but a characterization of the term “aloha” as a cheap tourist ploy. I would simply like to make it clear that the concept “aloha” doesn’t reduce to that, anymore than the Statue of Liberty’s symbolism reduces to nothing but cynical branding just because it is depicted on souvenir keychains.
Conciliatory statement second: I don’t think for a minute that there is any deep-seated disparagement of Hawaiian culture intended by anyone in this thread. Ignorance, as long as it isn’t willful, is a lot more easily cured than bigotry. My only reason for posting is to combat possible ignorance on what somebody born and raised in Hawaii means by aloha.
Was Gabbard sincere in her attempt to sound like she’s no longer anti-gay? I for one am doubtful. But was she purposefully reducing the issue to a hollow, meaningless phrase? I don’t think so.
And now I’m done, in part because this isn’t a big deal and in part because I agree with a lot of what you’ve said in this thread, so I can’t imagine why I’d want to be arbitrarily argumentative. Aloha!
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Just to be clear, it was the specific phrase “share their aloha” that I was questioning, not just “aloha” by itself.
Agreed, we all could have been clearer about that.
I think most of us understand that ‘aloha’ is a culturally appropriated thing that Hawaiians respect in deeper ways than we appreciate.
As I see it, that makes it even worse that Gabbard seems to be using it to bullshit her way through some very un-aloha words and actions in her not-too-distant past, the day after she declared her candidacy.
Wow, she seems entirely unelectable at the national level, and her campaign logo is at best uninspired, at worst… what a nuke looks like going off at night. Who picks a yellow gradient to brown/black for a campaign logo??
Lesbian I get, that’s from Teenage Lesbian Stewardesses from Outer Space, where they make out with each other rather than the cable guy. Gay I get, Bi means just flexible and/or indecisive. T means “trans”, which is a bit harder to get. “Queer” throws me off since it seems a separate category which is somehow distinct from any of the previous… but hey! consensual adults that do their own thing and don’t scare the horses, sure, fine and whatever.
But what’s the “plus sign” about?
As we as a society become more accepting of variation in sexual orientation and gender, and have a better of understanding of people’s unique differences, we’ve realized that there are a lot more possibilities than just the ones included in the words represented by LGBTQ. Rather than try to include every possibility, the plus allows for a wide variety, and also for new possibilities that may be identified going forward.
Intersex, non-binary, pansexual, asexual and gender-fluid are a few of the terms that I am familiar with, but there are plenty of online lists of terms that can fit under the “plus” umbrella.
I thought that Q was already meant to be an umbrella for all of the various non-mainstream variants of sexuality.