I think Rob Long is wrong. Just like every other person who has predicted the demise of the GOP since Abe Lincoln was elected.
Well, IMHO I do think that there is more than entertainment and schadenfreude.
I’m not that old, and I have trouble remembering a time when a very significant part of the right wing media was completely or almost completely against the Republican candidate in an election.
I do think that means that there will be a significant number of Republicans that, thanks to the information and the sources that they use, will either sit down on this election or even vote for the Democrat.
Actually it would be a Democratic collection. Collection and collective are two different words with two different meanings, and the adjective form of “Democrat” (referring to the party) is “Democratic”.
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That would make a collection of anything a collective. But that’s not what the word means.
Hahahaha. Are you saying that if things were different then things would be different? A Democrat collective is a Democrat collective. You can spin your own posts any way you wish.
Not that I expect this to happen, not even remotely, but if the Republicans would rise up and stage an effective anti-Trump coup d’état at their convention, I would regain a modicum of the respect I’ve lost for them in the last decade. Sadly, however, I don’t think they can even agree on doing something to improve their own situation. Too many years of sitting on their hands and fighting battles by ignoring them isn’t exactly practice for an internal revolution.
It would be if it existed, but it does not. The party is not a collective, and a collection of Democrats is not a collective. That’s not what the word means.
If they were, you would have been assimilated by now…resistance is futile.
I can remember the days of McGovern and Mondale and the imminent demise of the Democratic Party. Parties evolve (albeit many Republican votes might be uneasy with the word ‘evolve’) over time as issues and proposed solutions change.
Right now the Pubs’ are having their loud internal spats, which may embolden the Dems’ to move further and farther than the voting public wants, which will bring about the next crisis…and somehow we’ll keep pluggin’ along.
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
I grew up in Chicago. I’ve voted for many Democrats. Even after I moved away.
Everyone in Chicago was a Democrat, even the dead. :eek: And my Mom worked for the City of Chicago. Under the Mayors Daley, that wasn’t a job that was available to just anyone, ya know. ![]()
Then you know enough to know that the Democratic Party is not the Daley Machine, and is not a collective. Neither major American party is nor ever has been well-organized enough to constitute a “collective.” There are no party membership cards, membership rolls, membership dues, nor any way to expel a member – if Lyndon LaRouche wants to call himself a Democrat or David Duke wants to call himself a Republican, then he is one and there’s nothing the party can do about it. Each party accommodates a wide range of ideologies (though with significantly less ideological overlap between the two parties than there was in 1960). The party leaderships and the national executive committees have no power over “their” pols; they work for the pols, not the other way around. The local executive committees do hardly anything at all. Each party’s pols are essentially independent entrepreneurs taking orders from no party organization – even in Congress the party-caucuses’ power of discipline over their memberships is very limited.
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Obama came from the Daley Democrat machine. The same machine that helped Kennedy win the Whitehouse. It’s amazing what that machine can do when they set their mind to it. :eek:
The Democrat collective is alive and well on the internet, and they keep declaring the end of the GOP as well the end of the Bernie and Trump campaigns. At least they have been consistent. Consitently wrong. ![]()
The 1960 election. For the sake of argument, let’s say that Illinois was indeed stolen for JFK. If Nixon had been declared the winner of Illinois, he still would have lost the electoral college, 276-246. One can hardly claim that Daley helped JFK win the White House when the state did not matter in the final result.
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The Trump collective’s use of smilies and laughter distresses me more than the border wall. :eek:
Try telling that to the Daley machine. ![]()
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