The non-hiveminded, self created super-Borg named One from the Voyager episode Drone. A hybrid of Borg technology, human DNA and 29th century Federation technology. And he didn’t even need a woman; he made his own mechanical womb.
And the TNG episode where Deanna gets pregnant and has the creepy Donny Osmond baby who ends up dying and… uh… turning into a little globe and flying out the ship’s wall, right?
Ah, yes, I forgot that one.
I would buy these books forty-three times.
Don’t forget Crossword Puzzles.
Why are all vampire books so intense and stuff?
I am trying to read Twilight because of the 13 year olds in my life who are all a-twitter over this ( I blame JK Rowling for ending the HP fangasm in 7 books and the delay of movie #6. How can we wankoff if we don’t have a movie or book every so often!!!) and I wanted to see what the fuss was all about. So far, there is nothing fuss-able about it one bit but I am not up to the BIG DEAL about going to SEATTLE!!!111!!!
Is it true the movie sucks?
Thank you for a well written review on this is.
Seattle is like Nirvana (the concept, not the band) to teenagers. I have no idea why, but that was even the deal when I was a kid. (Actually, it made more sense then because Nirvana, the band, not the concept, was actually in Seattle and Changing the Face of Music when I was a teen.) As far as I can tell, it doesn’t even have the best coffee anymore, but it’s still teenage Utopic Dreamland.
I guess it’s like the Haight-Ashbury for the Millennial Generation.
For all the complaints that Twilight’s story is horrible, I never see people bringing up the fact that Bella is a terrible unreliable narrator.
“Edward is so beautiful it hurts to look at him” could be typical teenage exaggeration or it could be that Edward is using his subtle vampire hypnosis to make Bella think it hurts to look directly at him. He doesn’t want to be noticed after all and none of the other non-vampire characters ever mention anything about his looks. He’s just the weird kid.
Frustrating, isn’t it. Try some Christopher Moore – Bloodsucking Fiends especially. I think there’s a sequel.
Oooooooh! Consider it added to my list of books to read.
OT, Auntie Pam I think it was you who also read a book that I read, (Which is where I got the title from and decided to read it.) and I cannot for the life of me remember what the hell the title was. Set in the Guerney Isles post WW2 ish. Guy had an interesting name like Silas or Gideon. Very pastoral read. WHAT was the title? end my misery, obi wan.
Oh, is THAT why? I didn’t get it either. It would have made sense if it was 1992, but I didn’t know that Seattle is still where teens want to be. It makes me think of Microsoft and coffee, and well, those two things just don’t say teen paradise to me.
I live in Seattle, and we’d very much like not to suffer an influx of emo teens, thank you very much. Please tell them that this is the land of banana slugs and mediocre pizza, sometimes because it has banana slugs on it.
Yes, it’s called You Suck!, and the first line is, IIRC, “You turned me into a vampire - you suck!” Not pertinent to this thread, but Moore’s The Stupidest Angel is great too.
RE: Bella as unreliable narrator, this is one of the things that seemed like a huge missed opportunity to me. Just give us one or two hints that Bella is being a silly little hormonal girl, and the author knows it, and this book is entirely different.
To me, the repeated refrain of “He’s so beautiful that if this were an erotica novel I’d be pleasuring myself in the middle of Biology class” was the author winking at the unreliable narrator.
That is cliched teenage girl in a bottle right there.
Continuing the hijack, have you ever read Lamb? It’s probably one of my all-time favorite books. It’s kind of a parody of the life & times of Jesus Christ with his friend, Biff.
Back to Bella: I really wish they’d stop portraying her as some idiot who couldn’t tie her own shoes without help. That clutziness thing really, really bothers me. Bella’s propensity to fall down or bump into things borders on a neurological disorder. I think her problems with grace are the things they check for when I go in for my annual seizure checkup.
She is with regard to herself. She always thinks of herself as ugly and unappealing despite manifest evidence to the contrary. She and Edward also have a “karmic” draw to each other, so they are both unreliable wrt each other. Edward thinks she’s more beautiful than she is too. They have a pheremonal thing with each other where they smell really good, and I think that also affects their perceptions of each other.
This is not accurate. First of all, all vampires are incredibly attractive. Bella in fact is transformed into the most beautiful, perfect version of herself in the 4th book, which would reinforce the idea that becoming a vampire makes you more beautiful. Also, the other characters do notice that Edward is beautiful. Angela in particular had a huge crush on Edward and thinks nasty thoughts about Bella when she starts hanging out with Edward. So, Edward is notably and noticeably attractive, and other characters do mention it.
the author of the books is Mormon
I’ve only read the first book, so you’ll forgive me if later books change this up, but while the vampires are considered beautiful by the population at large, Bella’s reaction to Edward seems wholly unique. I also still think there’s something to the who “subtle hypnosis” fanwank.
Basically, that’s it, the book seems to get a badrap for some plot points when they’re all fanwanked away much simpler than the plot holes in some other geek fandoms.
The Book of Ebenezer le Page – wasn’t it something?