Twilight chaps my ass in yet another way

Oh good lord, that’s a damn funny premise. Mind if I use it in a role-playing game I game-master for?

Well, that particular part isn’t any stupider than real life. I know plenty of people with 30 year mortgages and multiple children together who refuse to even consider marriage because they don’t want to be tied down. Um…

Everything else about the books does indeed sound just too stupid for words.

Marriage for mortals has some legal meanings that I can understand wanting to avoid, if you have issues with being financially bound together. For the undead? It’s really just a ceremony, for show. That’s why her objections to one and not the other seem a little dumb to me.

I agree, that’s a great idea for a story, or a graphic novel, or a role playing game.

Agreed. I’d turn down marriage with him because even if the guy was loaded, had a million green cards, and could levitate (oh, wait, he CAN? still no) I wouldn’t marry him. But it sounds like Bella who’s in love with him and wants to be his everything might as well go ahead. They’re perfect for each other. Blech.

…I want to write this. I want to write this a lot. I want to make this happen. I love this. Can I make this a story?

If you do, please post it here. Or maybe publish it.

who is this book by?

Swedish author, John Ajvide Lindqvist.

John Ajvide Lindqvist

And while we’re talking about Let the Right One In, I read somewhere (probably here but maybe at Amazon) that the subtitles on the DVD currently available are a travesty. Consensus is to wait for another version that will eventually be released. The movie didn’t blow me away, but after reading some of the comments in this thread, I think I’ll adjust my attitude and give it another go.

I’d suggest reading the novel first. It’s much richer. The movie is an entirely respectful and engaging adaptation, though.

“I dunno. I can see falling in love with a girl, marrying her, having a couple kids together. But a tattoo? It’s so permanent!”

-Drake Sather

I still want to know if vampire poop is sparkly.

Yep, the first DVDs (and Blu-rays) released by Magnolia in the US had dumbed-down subtitles in place of the original theatrical subtitles. Many, me included, believe this ruins the experience of the film for English-speaking viewers. Read all about it, with screen cap comparisons here:

http://iconsoffright.com/news/2009/03/let_the_wrong_subtitles_in_to.html

There has been a subsequent release of the DVD with the correct theatrical subtitles. Look for the phrase “Theatrical subtitles” in the lower left corner of the back of the box. If you don’t see those words, don’t buy it. If buying online, make sure the retailer knows the difference and stocks the good version.

Still no reports of a Blu-ray release in the US with the theatrical subs as yet.

Whatever you do, ***don’t watch the English-dubbed version. ***If you watched that version, you’ve not seen the movie the director and the actors made.

In case I need to acknowledge something in print to everyone who’s expressed interest, it’s fine, just go ahead, and I’d love a link to Little Plastic Ninja’s story.

My mother tongue being Swedish, I feel intensely privileged to share a language with John Ajvide Lindqvist. On the other hand it makes you sad to realise that if he belonged to another nationality, he’d hardly be translated into Swedish, the market for horror and speculative fiction being what it is. As for the impression he’s making, my local library catalog has three Lindqvist titles in Swedish and Finnish. Meyer gets 17 titles, Swedish and Finnish and English. Also consider that Sunshine, Sookie Stackhouse, Anita Blake et mostly al. are still untranslated. There’s Rice, and there’s Meyer, and that’s that.

(My Twilight history: Skimmed PDF files of the three first books in two afternoons, looking for plot to start happening, and reacted with embarrassment squick, intense desire for minimalist poetry - it was as if I couldn’t trust myself with prose, in case it suddenly betrayed me and started to spout Meyerisms - and the need to reread the SCUM manifesto, and this time in earnest.)

About my post above, a quick clarification. The wording on the back of the “Let the Right One In” DVD box with the good subtitles actually reads: ‘SUBTITLES: ENGLISH (Theatrical)’.

Read more here:

http://iconsoffright.com/news/2009/07/update_are_the_right_subtitles.html

You know, I recently had a conversation with a (college age) Twilight Fan and I finally think I get the appeal, at least to a certain subset of the audience. She admitted flat out that the book/movie is atrocious, but it’s still GOOD. Yes, Twilight is the romance version of Wanted. It stacks cliche upon cliche, muddled by nonsensical motives, unrealistic narrative, and heavy handed dialogue, but it hits the “awww” point of chick flicks the same way Wanted hits the “okay, I don’t even care anymore, that was awesome” center of the brain that action movies target for people who liked it.

So take that however you want. I think at least a portion of the fans realize its terribleness, but just don’t care. It’s the same type of effect Dragonlance creates.

That or I vastly overestimate the intelligence of Junior High girls. Probably the latter, but meh, I’m feeling optimistic today.

Well, the problem I have with it is that it isn’t even very readable. I read a few pages, and it reads like the author read Roget’s and decided that she wanted to stick in lots of big words. “Show don’t tell” be damned! Just…ahh. I mean, I’ve read books that are bad but fun…this wasn’t even fun.

I agree, I know people who have done a drinking game that basically amounted to “every time she compares Edward to a marble statue take a shot” and they didn’t make it through the first couple pages. She obviously has SOMETHING that people are eating up in there, what she really needs to do is strip everything down, keep the plot, get a thesaurus and maybe take a couple classes. Rewrite the thing and (here’s the important part) send it off to a good editor, a really good one. In fact you could probably get away with just second guessing it by sending the novel off to a couple more editors and skipping the rest, but I don’t know. Re-release it as an “updated, enhanced edition” and profit. However, it’s already popular enough that that’s never going to occur.

Check out this video and tell me this girl realizes Twilight’s terribleness. She’s not even in junior high, but boy is she butthurt that Stephen King DARED to say that Stephenie Meyer was just not really a very good writer. There are legions of people just like her. I know, you want to think most of them are all ironic about liking it, but many of them… just aren’t.