Unquestionably. Dublin has had two Jewish mayors.
And Leopold Bloom.
And one President of Israel.
During the height of The Troubles Dave Allen had a bit, claiming to be walking down a dark street in Belfast when he feels a gun in his back.
“Are ye Catholic or are ye Protestant?”
(Thinking fast) “Jewish!”
“Ah, 'tis the luckiest Muslim in all Ireland I am.”
Barely, but we’ll count it!
A source tells The Wall Street Journal that Nick exhibited odd behavior at the party, asking celebrities these three questions: "What’s your name? What’s your last name? Are you famous?”
And three O’Pinions?
Delightful, nu.
It seems like doctors would have diagnosed this years ago. It’s been reported that Nick has been in and out of treatment programs for many years.
I’m not a doctor. But doesn’t it seem odd his meds were being adjusted outside a hospital or treatment center?
It’s not like blood pressure meds. Where you wait and see what happens. Come back next week if your bp is still too high.
Erratic behavior isn’t something you experiment with and hope for the best.
This should help with the defense’s case.
The vast majority of psych patients are not inpatients. They’re outpatients out in the world, just like you and me.
There’s no reason to assume that med adjustments only happen to inpatients. Not BP meds and not psych meds.
That article is confusing because it said Nick had recently been released from a rehab program. I thought they would adjust his meds there.
But I definitely defer to people with more knowledge of treatment protocols.
I expect Alan Jackson will push for a mental incapacity defense for Nick.
It’s not surprising. Nick has a long history of problems. Apparently the violent behavior is more recent.
Rob looked very healthy. It’s easy to forget he was 78 and had no chance of fighting off a 32 year old man with a knife.
I was on an airline flight earlier today and decided to watch the sequel to Spinal Tap, though there was an obvious sadness to doing so.
I saw it before the incident and man, am I glad I did. I didn’t love it, but agree that anyone now really needs to be warned. Big emotions seeing Rob Reiner with the guys that hits very hard now that he died so tragically.
“No chance?” I think that very much depends on how the attack was initiated, where they were, and whether the father had any defensive tools of his own at hand. Adrenalin can do a lot, even for a healthy 78-year-old, but if the son attacked him from behind and got in first with a serious wound, that would probably be it. Also, it might be as much that the father was “on his back foot” so to speak with feelings of compassion and guilt, which could have slowed him down in his self defense. I can imagine a lot of scenarios where the father, instead of dying, succeeded in disarming his son, and sat on him while he called the police.
I don’t imagine that most of these details will be available for public consumption until an actual trial, if one is held. In the meantime, you know what happens when you assume.
Erratic behavior is pretty bog standard in schizophrenia. Trust me; I had a schizoaffective uncle, and he did some weird shit. If doctors locked up everyone with “erratic behavior” there would not be enough room in the psych ward.
In reality there’s no good way to predict whether someone will do something like this. Which is why “we need better access to mental health care,” while true, is a cop-out when something like this happens that is heavily publicized. Unless he was actively planning to kill his parents, or talking about hurting people, he couldn’t be held.
This is a horrific tragedy for all involved and it’s hard to even imagine the heartbreak of being killed by your own son. Sometimes bad things happen and it’s nobody’s fault.
Not to mention the neck ache.
And I’m sure he was getting the best possible care already. They were able to spend whatever it cost to help him. Whatever doctors he needed, he got. Whatever meds he needed, he got. Whatever funds he needed to live comfortably, he got. When he needed to go to rehab 18 times, he got it, and it was probably in places that cost $50k+/month. While I agree that “better access to mental health care” is needed, in reality that doesn’t necessarily completely fix a person.
Conan O’Brien reportedly stopped guests from calling 911 the night of the party.
Conan himself admitted that not only should he have not done that, he should have intervened himself.
Obviously, there was no way to know what would have happened, but it’s hard to judge. I don’t know what exactly was said, and maybe they had arguments like this all the time that Conan had witnessed.
According to this article, minutes after the argument stopped, the Reiners left the party, so I’m not sure if it would have done much good anyway.
Some time later, shouts echoed. All conversations stopped and turned toward the racket. Two men, arguing. It was Rob and his son, having it out over Nick’s asocial and unsettling behavior.
Minutes later, the Reiners, mortified, apologized to O’Brien and left the party. It has not been determined if Nick left with them. The conversational din returned to the room, but the mood of the evening was altered.
Though the article doesn’t say how long the argument lasted, or if they left because Conan asked them to, or any other relevant details.