Osama’s whereabout’s known? Maybe in custody already
hmmthat sounds familiar whudda thunk it? GWB would pull some shit like this at the final bell. Of course it’s just a conspiracy theory. We all know junior is better than that.
:rolleyees:
How meaningful his capture is to the war on terror versus getting Bush back in office. This would guarantee he get’s re-elected. No doubt about it. Quite meaningful in that event.
Haven’t there been numerous stories of how we’re ‘getting closer’ to capturing him?? Haven’t we been seeing these stories for a couple of years??
Or have I been hallucinating again?
Shhhhh… I’m hunting Bin Wadens
Oh man, it’s my lucky day that this is the pit! That way, I can point out what a nasty dickwad you are for putting unspoken words and conclusions in someone else’s mouth and then calling them pathetic!
I would guess that the complaint of any sane person to the idea that there wa sudden pressure to capture Osama is the implication that it is now being put on for political reasons RATHER than those of national security, thus implying that no such emphasis was put on it beforehand. Even if they get Osama now, they’ve given him three extra years to spread his bile and help others set up franchises that can function even after he’s gone. Three extra years to taunt the US and show our weaknesses, how easy it is to distract and elude us. Three extra years in which his importance did, indeed disappate. We needed to catch him and show him to be just a weak little man ASAP. Instead, he’s now mythic and his movement has grown far beyond the need for his freedom.
You might remember a little thing called the Iraq war, where we pulled attention, resources, and so on away from the search for Bin Laden and into a war that turned out not to be all that pressing or that successful in any of the shifting aims given to it.
Eh…chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp…let us know when you find one, eh, Doc?
This makes no sense to me. YOu mean to say that there’s NO government secret, EVER, that hasn’t been found out? We know everything?
And if we had sent 150,000 troops into Afghanistan – instead of the 12,000 we did send – we would have caught him a lot sooner.
And as a bonus, those troops would probably be home now, instead of getting their asses shot at in Iraq.
People do talk
That’s no shit Elvis people do talk. You nailed it buddy. The problem is that no fuckin body is lissenen.
They said…there aren’t any WMD.
answer: Sorry, we’re not listenin.
They said Iraq’s nuclear weapons evidence is falsified.
Sorry, I can’t hear you.
They said GWB had reason to expect airhijackings.
Sorry, na-na-na fingers in their ears
They said our troops would stay and die in Iraq a lot longer than expected.
But-b-b-but- sorry…
They say GWB will do anything it takes in order to be re-elected.
What do you say?
No secrets? I don’t think anybody really wants to go there.
But I don’t want him (OBL) taken alive. I can think of nothing worse…radical lawyers wanting to defend him, a circus trial, then hundreds of American killed by this assholes followers.
No, I want the bullet riddled body to be pissed on, dragged behind the bumper of a truck, and left for rats and crows to eat.
Truly a fitting end for a piece of garbage.
How about drawn and quartered. Then while he’s still alive we feed him to a herd of swine. Afterwards we could take the herd of swine and grind them into sausage and feed that to Saddam and his bunch.
I’d be okay with him simply spending the next 40 years to life slopping the hogs and shoveling their shit. Maybe we could get him Saddam, Dick and George all working at the same nasty place together. 24/7 knee deep in pig shit from now on with nothing to wear and eating the same thing the pigs eat. They’d have to work together to keep the hogs from devouring their asses. Hot, nasty, rancid stench plus muddy water and souring slop to dine on. Maybe some pig sex from time to time. Then in the end to die face down in the mud only to rot while being eaten half alive. Yeah that’d do it. Death is too generous, too forgiving. I mean come on ralph have a little imagination.
Yeah, and I’m closer to sleeping with Viggo Mortensen.
My prediction: Given the way the press tries to be “objective” without checking facts (as witnessed by the Swift Boat nonsense), I suspect that about a week before the election, the government will announce that they’ve caught bin Laden. This will create much hoopla in the press, and since the security issue seems to be the one where Bush has a major lead, this will influence undecided voters.
Ten days or two weeks after the election, when the press has a chance to investigate the facts, it will turn out that they don’t have bin Laden after all, it was just someone who looked like bin Laden.
I agree with whoever said that capturing bin Laden doesn’t have any real meaning in practical terms, it won’t dismantle al-Quada. However, it will have enormous publicity value. Words speak much louder than actions.
Welcome to 1984.
That sounds so pretty.
Considering that we KNOW the Reagan team pulled EXACTLY the same kind of shit wrt the release of the American hostages, it’s reasonable to suspect Repub admins of treachery.
Come one now. Yes, small ones, known by only a few, can be kept temporarily. The more important they are, and the more people who know about them, the shorter their shelf lives. This one is overdue if it exists. Consider too that Bush needs a big boost right fucking now, with Osama’s capture being the biggest he could hope for, and you have to conclude this rabbit ain’t in the hat.
I find it amusing when people say that the government or any organization can’t possibly keep a BIG secret because too many people know about it. The argument is tautological in the sense that it can’t be proven or disproven either way. If there were any BIG secrets that we didn’t know about…well ya know what? That’s why they call them secrets. If there were any BIG secrets that eventually got discovered then they’ll say…see there I told you they can’t keep a secret.
The fact that some secrets/conspiracies have been discovered shows proof (for myself) that there MUST be some that have remained hidden or else they wouldn’t keep trying.
The fact that they even TRY to hide the truth is enough evidence for me to not trust the SOB’s.
Seems like I recall an experiment in the 1940’s that was pretty secretive and there were thousands of people that knew about it. Yet the specifics were absolutely secret. It stayed that way for years. Hmm… what was the name of that project?
Wasn’t there some LSD experiments that stayed a secret for years and years.
Nixon’s tapes were kept secret for years and even now there is some information that is not released to the public.
no secrets? Yeah okay.
Apropos of C K Dexter Haven’s post, which is a prediction that states a “date certain” (“about a week before the election”), would anyone like to predict A) That ObL (the real one) will be caught before the election, and B) How long before the election?
If he is caught before the election, many people will say “I told you so!” Others will say, “No, you didn’t.” So right here and now: Tell us.
t-keela, it wasn’t highly publicized, but neither was it a secret that the US was working on an atomic bomb. The real secrets were only a small part of it, and even then they weren’t totally secure - look up Klaus Fuchs and Julius Rosenberg for background there.
LSD experiments? Not big, not secret.
Nixon’s tapes? Their existence wasn’t secret, nor were they really big.
That was Vin Diesel, caught sky surfing over Baghdad.
But we did know where he was. He was in Tora Bora and we sent Afghan militia in to get him while our armed forces stood around by the front door waiting. Good plan, huh? I know I was shocked when he eluded capture.