Ugh, do I REALLY have to schedule ANOTHER colonoscopy?

Colonoscopy is scheduled for next Monday. “Low residue diet” is supposed to start Friday AM, and liquid diet is supposed to start Sunday morning. The docs here are telling me I’m not supposed to eat a solid breakfast on Sunday morning, even though technically it would be more than 24 hours before the procedure. I guess I’ll be following their guidance, but I’m annoyed because prep regimens I read elsewhere indicate that a solid (albeit low-residue) breakfast the day before is permissible.

The other annoyance is that a hemorrhoid debuted a few days ago. Goddammit. Hoping it heals, at least somewhat, before next Monday. Bought a jar of Tucks pads, hoping for the best when I start swilling Nulytely on Sunday evening…

They use lube, it’ll probably be fine.

Best of luck.

(There are a lot of prep regimens. My doctor’s have recommended much stricter ones than many other people seem to have. I’ve always been told no residue the last day. I ate a lot of lime jello the day before. Also, gummie bears are a “liquid” if you want to chew something.)

I made liberal use of Amazon.com: Boudreaux's Butt Paste Maximum Strength Diaper Rash Cream, Ointment for Baby, 4 oz Tube : Baby during my prep. Probably anything that acts as a good lubricant, after wiping, would be useful, especially with an existing hemorrhoid.

Good luck!

I do actually have this diaper rash ointment for a psoriasis rash elsewhere on my body, and yes, I expect I’ll be making liberal use of it during the final 12 hours before the procedure.

It’s times like these that I especially appreciated my bidet.

The problem isn’t during the procedure, it’s during the PREP!!! @machine_elf, you might JUST have time to acquire and install a bidet toilet seat - I highly recommend these.

Sounds like your doctors are on the same par with mine in terms of fairly restrictive diet the day before. Given my risk factors, I don’t push it.

@Digital_is_the_new_Analog , sorry to hear about the BS with the anesthesiologist. Aren’t there now laws about an OON provider in an otherwise in-network facility, and how much they can bill? A friend was panicking when her daughter’s colonoscopy resulted in a 4,000 dollar bill from the anesthesiologist. Which was utterly bogus - my own place, the bill is more like 1,300 bucks, and they got maybe 20% of that as in-network. The 4K was just price gouging in the hopes that some fool would pay it all.

This was well before the laws regarding such bullshit were passed. IIRC, the friend paid 3 or 4 hundred bucks, and the provider wrote the rest off.

I recently found I have an unfriendly version of the BRCA1 gene. As in, we aren’t quite sure why I have not yet developed breast cancer because statistically, I should have done so. I found mixed comments online on the impact of this on colon cancer risk, but I messaged my gastro saying something like “will this affect my screening, as in if I get a better procedure do I need to stay annual? Or maybe more often than annual?”.

Sadly, he said yes to both. Bleh.

Now, I’ve got other risk factors contributing, e.g. T2DM, obesity (well, until recently), gallbladder has been gone for quite a while. But the genetics don’t help.

I need to retire soon. All these screenings are going to become a full time job!

@drad_dog - somehow I missed this before.

How did things go?

That link no longer works. This should:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/fxpoie8cbi3y63z41die8/Colonoscopy-Writeup.docx?rlkey=gqr0xuffou27xuzqpvxbd1l6e&st=7gj8p5j3&dl=0

Thanks for the tip. We’ve actually had a Toto Washlet for years now. My wife likes it, but it never seemed to work terribly well for me (tho the heated seat is nice on winter days…). Now that I’m anticipating simply trying to wash away liquid, I expect it will be an important tool to avoid 12 straight hours of toilet paper abrasions.

Hey. I was stage 3. Had surgery and 6 months chemo. I passed the 6 month scan. I have neuropathy in hands and feet and don’t know how much I will recover. Drs don’t really know anything. So, fun times. Chemo for colon cancer can be damaging to the nerves. I really had no idea of this going in. They don’t advertise it.

Well if they advertised the truth, nobody would want to play!

Yeah, I’ve heard of the neuropathy problem.

Hopefully that 6 month scan will be the first of many, many clean scans!!

Thanks MZ!

Yeah - you WILL be very glad of it.

We got our first bidet seat back in 2020 because there were so many rave reviews by people who’d bought them due to the TP “shortage”, and I wanted to try one.

My husband rolled his eyes, but installed it (a basic cold water one).

He tried it before I did.

He was an INSTANT convert.

I said “we will be putting the NICE one in the master bathroom by next winter” (as, well, I had my next colonoscopy scheduled in early 2021). I miss them when we travel.

Yeah…my Mom was on traditional chemo for the first three or four sessions, and she developed neuropathy in her feet. That’s about when we got the genetic results from the biopsy pathology, and she started having cold sweats during her infusion sessions.
The doctor switched her to an immunotherapy approach, which is holding things at bay at least.

I need to read more about the “surprise billing” stuff, but when I looked it up initially, I remember thinking that it didn’t cover my specific case. I think because it was technically an optional procedure, and they probably told me something like “we can’t guarantee what it’ll cost”.
The case is officially under appeal. I’m due to call them late next week for an update.

Sorry for the double post, but I thought I’d update my Mom’s situation, and felt it deserved it’s own space. It’s a bit long, and I actually left out a lot of activity. Feel free to skip, but if these stories convince anyone to get screened, it’s worth the effort typing it up. Also, it helps me to share a bit, so…

For those who don’t recall - she has stage 4 colon cancer, with mets in her liver. Oncologist said that studies have shown that removing the main tumor typically doesn’t improve prognosis, because things are already spread elsewhere, so we’ve been doing chemo/immunotherapy.

Beginning of July, we were at out regular infusion appointment. Mom had told me she was having some neck pain, but wasn’t concerned about it. I told her that she should let the doctor decide if it’s important, because cancer therapy can do all kinds of stuff. He agreed that it might be important - she has a port, and that can cause a blood clot. He ordered an ultrasound to rule that out. We scheduled it for the next morning, Tuesday.

About half an hour before I was planning to leave the house to pick Mom up, she called me. She said she was up all night throwing up and in pain. She was going to cancel the US appointment, and wanted me to take her to the ER instead. I was basically ready, so I left right away, picked her up, and took her to the ER.

They decided they needed to do a new CT scan and gave her the typical contrast stuff to drink. Mom struggled to get about a quarter of it down, and they eventually gave up, decided that’s what they were going to have to deal with, and did the CT. They found a complete blockage in her colon. It still isn’t clear if the tumor grew, shifted into a different position, the colon was inflamed making the space smaller, some food got trapped in the smaller space, or something else. In any case, they were going to look at surgical options.

In the mean time, they put an NG tube in to drain the remaining contrast fluid and anything else lying around. (For those blissfully unaware, that’s a tube down her nose into her stomach. It hooks up to a suction device with a collection bin.) She started getting IV nutrition. Thankfully they were able to use her port for some of the nutrition, because that gave them more options.

Wednesday morning, they told us they were recommending the removal of that part of the colon.
They hoped they would be able to reattach the ends, leaving her without an ostomy bag. The surgeon felt that her case had a good prognosis for that - the most likely reason they couldn’t reattach cleanly would be if the colon/tumor had attached to the abdominal wall, and they had multiple scans showing things moving around still.

They hoped to do it on Wednesday, because Thursday was the 4th of July, and staffing gets harder. They were perfectly willing to do it whenever it made sense, but if Mom was stable enough to handle it Wednesday and the NG tube had pretty much finished it’s job, that would be the best case. Things worked out, and Wednesday evening around 6pm they took her for surgery.

About 8:30, I got the call that surgery was successful. No ostomy bag. I got to see Mom briefly in recovery, but she was very drugged up, and they advised me to go home and get some sleep, since that’s all Mom was going to be doing.

She stayed in the hospital for about a week after that. Got back on solid foods slowly, and given PT to help her get out of bed and back to walking.

They biopsied the removed tumor. It showed two cell types - neuroendocrine carcinoma and adenocarcinoma. We met with the oncologist this past Monday, and he said he thinks that’s really just the cancer progressing and looking, in his word, nasty. DNA testing showed the sampled sections had the same mutation her original tumor has, so it’s likely to be original tumor, and not new stuff. Her CT-DNA blood tests have been encouraging, and he still believes in that test. He ordered a new one, and we’ll have results in another week or so. He also said there aren’t really good “next line” treatments. And he’s always said that the stuff she’s on works really well, until it doesn’t. I was left with the overall impression that this is normal progression. She was given 12-18 months at the end of December, so this makes sense.

For now, we’re staying the course. Her birthday is at the end of this month, and we’re making plans for how to celebrate. And I’m hoping that we get to do Thanksgiving as a full family still.

Most likely, you had etoposide. That’s a common side effect from that sub-class of drugs, and often does fade away, but it can take a while.

Sunday afternoon here. Last solid food was last night, and I can only handle so much sweet or salty liquid today. Have had broth (10 calories per cup!), some jello, and some Ensure Clear. The prep juice starts in a couple of hours.

I assume I’m gonna be pretty damn hungry by tomorrow afternoon, but of course all the advice recommends easy-to-digest foods immediately after the procedure - most of which are similar to what was recommended for the “low residue” diet of the past couple of days. For those of you who have had a colonoscopy, how soon after the procedure did you eat, and what did you feel like eating?

Immediately. Something greasy.

Last two times I’ve gone to this place. I think I felt like the smothered breakfast burrito, or possibly the chorizo omelet, I don’t remember exactly. Anyway, it was very good.

https://toastfinefoodandcoffee.com/

Just teasing with food references while you’re in your fast. Seriously, I’ve never had an issue eating whatever I want afterwards. If you have a sensitive stomach, or anesthesia makes you nauseous then go easy, but otherwise treat yourself to something good.

I wanted something that didn’t challenge my digestive tract, but it still had to be yummy. So Mr. brown took me to a pho joint and I had chicken pho with lots of white meat chicken and rice noodles. Gave the sriracha sauce a pass, though.