Polycarp is a saint. But there’s already a St. Polycarp, so we’ll have to call ours St. Polycarp the Great.
Polycarp is a saint. But there’s already a St. Polycarp, so we’ll have to call ours St. Polycarp the Great.
I don’t think so. I think that the more this sort of thing gets debated in public forums, the more people realize how insane it is to hate like this. In fact, just this morning I was going on about just this topic at some length.
I really believe there’s hope for us all.
Due to a partial historectomy (sp)? with the birth of our second child, my wife can’t have any more kids. Does that mean I should find myself a new “useful” wife?
That fact is that the government does intrude on marriage, giving certain rights and obligations to both parties. This is a good thing, since whether there are children or not the spouses are to some extent dependent on each other. For this reason, if the spouses split up, the courts will see that one is not left destitute. If one spouse dies, it is easier for the surviving spouse to access the decedent’s retirement accounts, and receive favorable tax treatment.
As much as taking care of children, marriage is about taking care of each other. Right now, gays and lesbians are not allowed to take care of each other, or children, the same way straight couples are. And it ain’t fair.
Polycarp can I be you when I grow up?
[sub]No sarcasm at all. Just genuine admiration.[/sub]
Sweet spirits of niter -
Polycarp started a Pit thread?
The Apocalypse is upon us! Lord have mercy on us all!
Shodan runs back to the Left Behind Message Board, whimpering "You were right! You were right!’
Regards,
Shodan
And I think that is confirmed by Toby’s post in this thread. If gay marriage shouldn’t be allowed because all marriages that do not produce children shouldn’t be allowed, then we have clearly reached an absurd position. This is usually the point where a reasonable person reevaluates his original position. I think it is clear that Toby is being unreasonable.
I just finished re-reading the thread in question, partly to see if Uncle Toby had responded to a question I had raised last night. My question, and his answer, follow: (bolding mine)
My post was headed, “A clarification of your terms, please” yet he presumes to assign ulterior motives to my question. Then in his reply and in several later posts, he puts on a tap-dancing performance worthy of Savion Glover to justify denying homosexuals the same rights as heterosexuals with regard to marriage by declaring that:
*The sole purpose of marriage is to ensure the continuation of the species.
*The state should not grant “special privileges” to married couples.
*There should be two forms of marriage; one which is merely an agreement between two people and one which is sanctioned by the state because the couple has reproduced.
*Since married couples in UncleTobyland who have not, cannot, or will not have children do not have special privileges, homosexuals are not being discriminated against in the real world by being denied the same rights which married couples have in the real world. At least, that’s how I interpret the following:
I also noticed that one of his pet tactics was dismissing statements made by others as “strawmen” whenever they questioned his “reasoning” on an issue. Yet his whole marriage=reproduction concept is a strawman.
I have a pretty high tolerance for idiocy that does not affect me personally, but I find myself so offended by his attitude that I can only recommend that he seek the services of a cranioproctologist and an optometrist to see if they can combine their efforts to help him see the light, considering where his head is.
Man. I’d better get knocked up pretty f-ing quick. I knew that undying love I had for my husband was WORTHLESS.
EIGHT YEARS DOWN THE DRAIN.
That’s alright. There’s always Coldfire!
J
Very true- I’m too unhealthy to reproduce. Now what? Aren’t I allowed to practice and pretend I’m trying to get pregnant? I’m not allowed to get married, have a commited relationship with the man I love, and screw him like a horny monkey whenever I please, despite the impossibility of reproduction?
Well, then should I just get drug out behind the woodshed and put down? What? Live to be an old spinster because you say so?
Well, OK- but I don’t think my husband’s gonna like it.
… who just might be spoken for, of course. 
Wow–if you can get Polycarp that angry, a person might want to rethink his position. Of course, one can’t really call the blather coming from Uncle Toby “thinking.” It’s just–blather, composed of naught but meaningless noises and hot air. He doesn’t seem to have much of a position and even less of a grasp of logic and simple English syntax. I always find it hilarious to watch an unintelligent person trot out four-syllable words, which he invariably misuses because he doesn’t know their meaning, to hide the lack of sense in his comments. I mean, the man is using “perversion” in reference to childless marriages, and he seems to have no conception of the loaded nature of the word.
Anyway, enjoy the BBQ, y’all.
UncleTobyLand…
I think that one should be added to our repetoire.
definition: Where something looks vaguely like logic and the poster seems to be speaking English, but then you realize that the sky is a very different color in the world of the poster.
WHOA…Polycarp is pissed?
UncleToby, you REALLY screwed the pooch!
For gods sakes, I’m hoping YOU never have children.
I mean, my god, there are abusive jackasses who have kids and beat the living shit out of them. Are THEY healthier and less perverted than a childless couple? (gay OR straight?)
Get fucked up the ass by a lightsaber.
I asked Uncle Toby in the other thread what he would do if one of his kids turned out to be gay. Would he tell them they were a perversion or unhealthy? He refused to answer which pretty much answers the question.
Do the world a favor and don’t reproduce. I promise we won’t look down on you because of it. We’ll thank you.
Polycarp, I’m sorry about your wife’s pain. How wonderful though that she has you in her life.
I am agog. (Yup - an entire gog!)
Getting taken to Polycarp to The Pit is like… like… well, not like anything. And any flaying I could give you pales in comparison to the flaying he wouldn’t give you.
Detestible little bug. Go away before somebody finds a windshield.
Esprix
JFTR, he has now admitted in the original thread that he was trolling:
Trolling. What a surprise. :rolleyes:
MrVisible, I hope you are correct.
Strolling into the Pit today…WHA–? Polycarp pitted someone??!! I instinctively ducked and covered under my desk.
Toby, you can shove your pig-headed beliefs up your ass.
Dooku, married 5 years, no kids now nor ever.
[sub]This will go into the Trivial Pursuit - SDMB Edition. “Who did Polycarp pit?”[/sub]
Toby, you are the worst sort of reject, you are athing lacking a TRACE of humanity. I predict a very long and lonely life for you, because you are the most ignorant fuckbiscuit ever.
You are incapable of helping your alleged cause, and do indeed bring shame to yourself, and anyone who has had the misfortune to meet your sorry ass.
Piss off.