This has been on my mind for a while. I’ve been watching the prison channel lately and talk invariably turns to prison rape or sodomy. And now there is a thread in GQ that proffers that even under the threat of death sailors on long voyages turned to each other for sex.
As I understand it prison rape is mostly about power. I get that but one would have to actually be erect for that to happen. Now I like sex a lot. I have the need for release at least a couple of times a day. Somehow, though, no matter how desparate the situation I know that the site of another man hairy, sweaty, shit-flecked asshole would not be condusive to getting, much less maintaining, a hard-on. Given that the ‘catcher’ is fighting you off and the need to keep a look out for guards would be distracting It seems damn near impossible for prison rape to occur. Yet apparently it’s rampant.
In the sailors case you have small close quarters and the fear of death combined with the afore mentioned hairy, sweaty, (probably even more) shit-flecked asshole. Also no shower or toilet paper and every one running around with scurvy - lord, the mind shudders. Yet, there again, it happened.
I am convinced I could never do this so my question is… Does it take a certain type of man or do the circumstances really turn the average hetro into a bum lover? Do you think you would ever do this?
[sup](I realize sodomy includes oral sex as well but as far as I’m concerned there is still a big ewww factor)[/sup]
Were I to engage in it with a male, it would definitely be practice, as I’ve never done that, and therefore am not proficient.
That being said, I’m a pretty liberal-minded individual when it comes to sexual matters, but I just don’t bat for that team. Evar. Doing without is preferable.
Wait, who’s *not *willing to do *anything *“under the right circumstances?” A cushioned, sphincter regulated orifice belonging to a member of the same species?
Men have killed for far less.
Under no circumstances would I ever willingly engage in sodomy, the key word being “willingly.” I would have to be beaten until I was totally unable to resist. Neither a pitcher nor a catcher be would sum it up. If you wanna do it, go ahead on, just not with me. I’ve refused to perform rectal intercourse with women who requested it; the idea of performing that act with a man just isn’t the way my mind runs.
It’s my understanding that a lot of prison sex is not rape - even in prison there would be men who *like it * anally. I mean, 5-10% of men are gay, on average, right? Not all gays like the anal, but there’s a lot that do. And then there’s them as don’t consider topping to be gay. And them what thinks with their prostrate (you know, Peggers)
Also, I think the stereotype of the guy being held down and fighting is way overstated. From my limited understanding (relatives in prison gangs, coupled with morbid curiosity on my part), most non-consensual prison sex is more of the blackmailed/threatened beforehand type, and so the actual act itself doesn’t involve as much outright violence as you’d think - the equivalent of a person who doesn’t resist the actual physical act because the rapist has a gun to their head.
Sure - I’m mostly het, but if I was single and in gaol, I’d hook up with willing partners, both top and bottom. I mean, I have a functioning prostrate, plus it’d probably keep me in cigarettes, know what I mean…
If I was still with my wife though, it’d have to be Mrs Palmer and her 5 Lovely Daughters for me, and any sodomy would be of the non-consensual kind on my part. But that’s 'cos I’m currently monogamous, not 'cos I’m averse to adapting to circumstances.
There was a thread not that long ago (I think it was “Ask the guy whose been in prison”) and I asked about anal rape, and his response was “a lot of butt fucking goes on but not that much of it is rape, there are plenty of willing parties to go around” and apparently that’s not because prisons are full of gay men either. I was a bit :dubious: but someone linked to some wikipedia page that talks about voluntary changing of the teams one bats for in certain situations.
Hell, I practice sodomy all the time, I could probably make a lot of cigarettes in prison. Still have no desire to go there though.
I would not be on either end in a million years. Prostate exams are a big enough pain in the butt, I don’t see why you’d ever want something up there for a non-medical reason.
I remember in the book Midnight Express that the (straight) protagonist indulged in homosexual practices with his cellmate. It seemed in the book to be more of a need for human contact at first, but I guess that while you’re cuddling, the next step is to get some hanky panky too.
Well you know what they say, practice makes perfect. I am not gay but I think that if you talk about your sex life here it’s okay to joke about it a little. Please don’t think ill of me Ip, but I tried to joke with another guy (Otto and he seemed offended.
I would not ever force myself on a man sexually and I wouldn’t tolerate a man doing so to me. While I have never been in prison, I know men who have and while I never pressed the issue with them I wouldn’t think any less of them for doing so. As for myself, I’m thinking no, I wouldn’t engage in sodomy but only because I don’t feel it’s right for me.
And what people do is their business. Your life will be no different regardless of what someone else does. Picked up that little gem from the Samurai, some of which were gay and had male lovers. If warriors so fierce and so proud can see past it a regular guy like me can as well. I might joke about such things but the severity of it as a whole does not escape me. It can be horrible or it can be pleasant, I suppose. Some things are better learned from the experience of others. This being an excellent example.
I’m thinking that I’d do that “hallucinate my cell mate is a giant ham and try to eat him ala Bugs Bunny” thing before taking any hikes up the Hershey Highway.
Depends on who my cellmate is. If he’s slender, small-framed, and effeminate, I’ll ride him hard and put him him up wet every night. I’ll use him 'til he’s raw in every hole and then get a handjob. Life being as unfair as it is, it’s unlikely he’ll get so much as a reach-around from me.
I am not gay but I think that if you talk about your sex life here it’s okay to joke about it a little. Please don’t think ill of me Ip, but I tried to joke with another guy (Otto and he seemed offended.