unfortunate events we seem unable to eliminate

arguments about the best way to cook turkeys
politicians getting wealthy while in office
rubberneckers on the side of the expressway away from the accident who have to cause a jam by doing what rubberneckers do.

“Snap” is most often a code word meaning “I have no idea how to read a dog’s communication* so I didn’t see this coming.”

*There are typically three reasons for the inability to understand dog body language and behavior: laziness (this isn’t rocket science, anyone can learn if interested), incapacity (as in mental or intellectual disability), and plain old stupidity (possibly intoxication-induced).

I know that CP symmetry can be violated. But I think trying to eliminate it altogether would be a mistake.

Exactly!

What are the stats for hit by lightning as opposed to bit by dogs?

Annually in the U.S. = 4.7 million dog bites, 800,000 requiring medical care

About 500 lightning strikes (about 10% fatal)

So a dog bite requiring medical care is a little over 1000 times more likely than being struck by lightning, which seems roughly in accord with intuition to me.

Dogs aren’t human, but dogs are sentient. Flies are not. Perhaps you’re not, either, given your poor reasoning on this subject and apparent total lack of empathy.

Potential remediation for begbert2, although the almost complete absence of empathy suggests that it’s probably a lost cause:

From a review:
In the episodes I’ve seen, there is one constant – the near-infinite aptitude of dogs for positive responsiveness and dependability. The family in Cincinnati is facing fraught emotional times when Rory comes to help take care of Corrine. The other girls in the family are bitterly disappointed that the dog cannot really be theirs, too. Rory must bond primarily with Corrine. And still, in the end, he is just there, as if comprehending everything intuitively, kind and responsive to all of them.

… It would be true to say that the primary accomplishment of this excellent series – a must-see – is its celebration of the intimate, sometimes tear-inducing relationship between people and their dogs. And equally true to say it is simply gorgeous and gravely pensive. As gravely pensive, in fact, as the eyes of that young girl waiting for the dog who will help with her care and be her constant companion.

Turns out, FTR, that dogs are not at all like houseflies.

yes, but… people get dogs, many get pit bulls or some other dog that has a reputation, and find they are cuddly, sweet, tongue licking fur babies…and they don’t have a clue about dog ‘language’. Then, one day, an unforeseen new stimulus is added to the equation. A situation unusual for their circumstance. Dogs react to these things, are nervous, shaky, anxious… and the owner calms them down. All is well until the owner isn’t right there the next time this stimulus happens – a neighbor’s kid or baby in a stroller, someone with a dog of their own, etc. etc…and the dog has had enough and attacks…and, if it is a pit bull or doberman or rotty…some sort of dog like that…it can kill. Other dogs will also attack, but often, as soon as they do, they are shocked by their own behavior and they stop. Or, they bite but not badly enough to kill.

That is real world, not some fantasy world where pit bulls are nanny dogs.

Real world – other dogs do not have some magical “governor” that “shocks them by their own behavior.” What keeps fatalities caused by other dogs from showing up in the news feed is selective reporting, not breed tendencies. This is well documented by researchers and veterinarians, AND I’ve told you before.

So why do you repeat this fantasy?

Here’s data once again from the National Canine Research Council:

Source (.pdf warning): https://www.nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/sites/default/files/Dog-Bites-Problems-and-Solutions-2nd-Edition_0.pdf

so what? get rid of all dogs, then. we can’t trust any of them… what do we owe dogs? or cats, for that matter??? Not that I trust your cites scholarship, just that I know that pit bulls are pretty damned dangerous to have around.

Monsignor, by that kind of “let God find His own” reasoning, we might as well nuke the world. After all, there is always some murderous sonabitch someplace…

How do you “just know”? :dubious:

We’ve lowered it significantly however, thanks to the invention of the lightning rod. I doubt that we’d have nearly as many tall buildings without it.

Heh, I recall reading how due to early Christian opposition to lightning rods (based on the idea that lightning was God’s wrath), there was a period where churches tended to get zapped over and over while other buildings were spared due to the combination of no lightning rods and church steeples often being the tallest thing in town. The symbolism was a bit embarrassing.

And that’s despite a great deal of population growth and the attendant growth in vehicle miles driven. So it’s even more impressive than it looks.

Why is this thread back in rotation? Oh, right …

I would like to reduce excessive verbosity as above. You could eliminate either the second or the third word, and make the sentence shorter and more accurate both.

I’m in total agreement with you that dogs aren’t humans. OTOH, if there was room in the lifeboat for you or for a friendly dog…

I’m tired of all the bitching without solutions being offered. While this is a time-tested phenomenon, as arrested by Mark Twain, we’re gonna change that right now. I’ll tackle number 3: we will eliminate kids at bus stops being hurt by inattentive drivers, by making bus stops illegal for anyone under 18 to frequent. I already dashed out a letter to my senators. That taken care of, I need you guys to pick each of the other ones, and solve them practically and cost-effectively. Conference call Tuesday 11:15 AM EST.

Come on boffins, let’s sort this out once and for all!