There aren’t a lot of prison guards who are living their dream. Many, many of them want to be police but couldn’t get hired. Did to that, they have some mighty big chips on their shoulders.
I assume because they are large armed men.
It’s Barr who be prosecuted for doing this, but yes, I believe they ARE doing something wrong by intimidating lawful protesters.
Um, are prison guards trained in constitutional rights of civilians? I rather doubt it. They have no business being put on the streets like that.
This is getting extremely ugly. And it looks like it’s going to get worse.
Well, I agree, but dont blame them, blame Barr.
The Presidency isn’t inherent in a building. The POTUS is POTUS whether in the White House, or at Camp David, or touring a disaster area, or visiting the Queen of England, or on Air Force One, or hanging out in my basement (not that I have ever had, or ever expect to have, a POTUS hanging out in my basement.)
Trump could not remain president by physically holding the White House. The idea’s absurd. (Granted, often so is Trump. But he couldn’t make this bit of absurdity work even if he tried.)
You haven’t convinced me that shmucks in expensive proud boy costumes should be considered to have authority because they reproduced or used to be in the military. You’ve just declared it to be so.
what are you babbling about?
They have authority as they are Law Enforcement Officers. Whether or not they are vets has nothing whatseover to do with it. Nor does " they reproduced"
whatever the hell that means.
A Undercover or plainclothes police officer is still a police officer.
Nor are they wearing “proud boy costumes”. They are wearing riot gear.
Then they should go find a riot to deal with rather than a peaceful protest.
Are federal BOP sworn officers with arrest powers? 'Round here, prison guards don’t have arrest powers.
ETA: It appears that they have some arrest powers, but they are limited to escapees off BOP facilities, or violations of things like contraband in BOP facilities.
Completely off topic, but today is your day! 6/8! Happy SD Handle Day to you.
HAHA! Thanks, I didn’t even realize it 
I’ll try to remember you and return the favor when RitterSport day rolls around…
Your posts.
Are they? Can you prove that? They have no insignia, they have no badges. THEY can’t even prove they have authority, how can you?
Do you have their badges?
Then why did you mention these traits as being part of the reason they couldn’t possibly be brownshirts and this couldn’t possibly happen here.
If I come up to you and say “I’m an undercover cop” and proceed to act as though I have authority over you, would you obey?
Exactly.
I believe the idea is to fire the guys who like to kick ass and hire the guys who want to work for the Peace Corps.
This is as close as I’ll get:
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Make a note of it!
BOP Correctional Officers are federal law enforcement officers. But, for this type of assignment, they are typically deputized as US Marshals and operate under the auspices of the USMS. The same is true of the Border Patrol (which also has limited arrest authority). I don’t know how common this sort of thing is, but there are examples going back at least to the 1960s. I think there are even examples of Border Patrol officers being deputized as state law enforcement to help handle emergencies.
These aren’t guys just doing their jobs. Their job is guarding prisons. That’s not what they’re doing. And even if they are legitimately deputized, it sure as heck wasn’t legal for them to not identify themselves when asked (even when asked by other police officers!).
At the point where they refused to identify themselves, (especially to other police officers - I had not heard this), that is the point at which they became heavily armed and dangerous civilians and subject to arrest.
Read earlier in the thread, where the mayor of Washington wasn’t able to determine who they were.
Deputizing them is fine. But there has to be an order that deputizes them, and it has to be public so people know they’re so deputized. And the persons who’ve been deputized must have identification that makes clear that they’re one of this group that’s been deputized.
Otherwise, any bunch of bozos could walk around in paramilitary gear, act like they’re law enforcement, refuse to identify themselves, and push people around as if they had authority to do so.
I haven’t seen any sources that say they didn’t identify themselves to police officers. Do you have a citation for that?
I’m also curious for the basis of your claim that it was “not legal” for them not to identify themselves when asked… is that legally required?
Well, Investigative Reporter have proven that.
If they arrested me I would have.
I was comparing Brownshirts to BOP guards.
If they said “stay out of that street it is dangerous” and I saw major trouble, i dont care who they are, I’d stay out of that street.
Now if one of these guys gave anyone a order under authority, and didnt ID themselves by showing a badge, I guess that if you disobeyed that order (and why?) you would have a case for it to to be thrown out. But if they are lined up protecting something- which is exactly what they were doing, then I’d obey even a security guard.
Did any of these BOP police order you to do anything unreasonable?
All they were doing is standing there, protecting things.