No, there’s a point where abstract concepts of freedom of speech break down and become appeasement.
Sailboat, it has been a while… How is your wife? Are you both OK? I have you in my thoughts and I hope everything is going to be all right!
Freedom of speech in the US is about as far from an abstract concept as you can get.
Marches by men armed with automatic weapons, shouting violent threats, and going out of their way to physically intimidate, harass, and provoke violence, don’t fall into the category of ‘freedom of speech’.
Well said. Next he’ll ask for a cite that the swastika a nazi symbol.
I hope she wasn’t too badly hurt and recovers rapidly.
My family has our own history with Nazism but I think that this has been handled very wrong. Declaring a state of emergency and generally creating a huge fuss was the wrong way. I think they should have been allowed their demonstration with a minimum of fuss and publicity.
Really?
It translates to “kill anybody who isn’t one of Us and is found in Our Land”. The original idea was that only those considered ethnically-appropriate (Blood) could live in the Land and any who weren’t appropriate should be cleansed (translates to “killed”); “the Land” wasn’t merely what one might call “the motherland”, but “anywhere Our Power can reach”, and the “unclean” was also widened to include those considered “traitors to the Blood”.
There should be a huge fuss when nazis want to march. That doesn’t mean violence or repression, but it should mean that we all get angry that these assholes still think their views are welcome in our society, and we speak out and confront them. They should never be unchallenged.
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I don’t know about a crowd chanting this exact thing, but we’ve got one:
The crowd of alt-righters immediately condemned his comments in the strongest possible terms, of course. Right?
Oh, *why *didn’t his family and pastor tell the authorities he had been radicalized?
Then do yourself a solid and get that way before you post about it again. There isn’t very much complexity to it, really.
And can you believe the president refuses to say the words “radical white terrorism”?
The latest martyr has been identified as Heather Heyer.
I’m curious why you think chanting for murder is egregious but carrying a symbol that endorses the genocide of millions is not.
We have a poster whose wife may be dead or seriously injured, and you’re coming at us with this apoloigist bullshit? I’m honestly shocked at your behavior in this thread.
Thanks, but I wasn’t offended. Your post just wasn’t making any sense as a response to mine. The quoted post I was initially responding to was asserting that since explicit calls for murder didn’t happen, Jews/minorities should not feel that calls for their murder existed. My point was the symbol carries the call for murder without any need to say it explicitly. My mother experienced what those symbols stood for as basic ideology.
True red-blooded American patriots gotta stick up for each other.
I didn’t make an analogy. I asked two questions. The first was meant to find out if the connection you made between the rally and the Republican Party was based solely on BS about hand signals. It apparently was.
The second question was to provide you with some perspective.
I’m sure there’ll be tsking. After all, someone editorialized by saying he SPAT. Gosh, that’s not objective reporting, now, is it? If only both sides could just simmer down!
Nice republicans chanting Heil Trump while making Nazi salutes good enough for you? This was a GOP march.