The forum is called Great Debates. Arguments. Not angry, unsupported assertions. The debating style that involves asserting the opposite of the OP in a hostile way without any reasoning or evidence is beyond inane. It’s a waste of everyone’s time. So, please, spare the rest of us. This is the last time I will respond to one of your posts, and I’m doing it here so as not to distract from the real debate.
Ok, you think premise 1 is false. Your reasoning, if parsed into something logical, seems to be: no animal feels pain like a human does because an animal’s brain is different. I might be able to turn that into an argument if I added a lot of assumptions, but as it stands, its little more than a vague assertion. If you want to debate someone, in the future you should consider offering reasons and evidence.
This is also a non-response. Premise 2 is about * arbitrarily * giving and denying basic rights. Prisoners and children aren’t denied basic rights, and the rights they are denied aren’t denied arbitrarily. You do know that you are not free to kill children for your pleasure, right?
Oh, that nice. You’ve asserted your position again without addressing the argument in the OP. Thanks, we’re all convinced now. Your hostile tone also really helps us listen to you. Care to offer an argument? No, I guess that won’t ever happen.
This doesn’t even need a response. It’s perfect just by itself.
Sometimes, adults like to have reasoned debates about complex issues. This often involves listening to things you disagree with, and offering your reasons for disagreeing. From time to time, people will take a position just for the sake of finding out what well-reasoned arguments exist to refute that position. Without people like you, this can happen with civility and actually manage to educate some people.
It clearly escaped your attention that the point of the OP was to outline the animal rights position so that we could see where its premises are wrong. To do this, people offer arguments against the premises, like most people did. Since you do not understand this, please stay out of my thread.