So I am a frequent reader of Futility Closet as it often has some great math and logic puzzles, but today’s post has got me curious, can the Straight Dope community solve it?
As it is from 1873, I will presume that the copyright is long expired so I will post the riddle here:
Bishop Samuel Wilberforce
I’m the sweetest of sounds in Orchestra heard,
Yet in Orchestra never was seen.
I’m a bird of gay plumage, yet less like a bird,
Nothing ever in Nature was seen.
Touch the earth I expire, in water I die,
In air I lose breath, yet can swim and can fly;
Darkness destroys me, and light is my death,
And I only keep going by holding my breath.
If my name can’t be guessed by a boy or a man,
By a woman or girl it certainly can.
The solution not being visual but being easier for a woman to get the solution is truly stumping me. I’m thinking aether or phlogiston or something similar except for the man vs. woman comment at the end. So any thoughts by the Dope?
That’s a whale of a riddle.
Yes. And the woman being able to guess is because of whale bone corsets.
bup
April 12, 2013, 6:56pm
4
Darkness destroys me, and light is my death?
Dead whale = whale oil = light. ‘Darkness destroys me’ is reaching, but hey it fits.
DataX
April 12, 2013, 7:14pm
7
It’s fairly long to do cut and paste under fair use, but post 8 here:
makes a decent case for “whale”
not sure I buy it, but it’s better than what I can come up with so far
DataX
April 12, 2013, 7:16pm
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Also note there are several versions of this poem floating around - may 95% similar, but some differences
Closest I came up with is “bubble”, which is okay for:
I’m a bird of gay plumage, yet less like a bird,
Nothing ever in Nature was seen.
Touch the earth I expire, in water I die,
In air I lose breath, yet can swim and can fly;
and
And I only keep going by holding my breath.
but not so much for the others.
DataX
April 12, 2013, 7:27pm
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Shodan:
Whales can fly?
Regards,
Shodan
from the link I posted:
I fly through the air in great leaps from the sea,
And swimming, of course, just comes natural to me.
An air breathing mammal, my breathing must cease,
Whenever I dive to find krill for my feast.
You should read it - I think I undersold it above
bup
April 12, 2013, 7:27pm
12
I can live with that.
Shodan , they breach, anyway.
Shodan
April 12, 2013, 7:56pm
13
Whales don’t die in water, either - they live there.
:shrug:
I like “what have I got in my pocket” better.
Regards,
Shodan
If a non-beaching whale never leaves the water, where else is it going to die?
Is that the game where your uncle makes you feel around in his pocket and you try to guess what’s in there? I can’t say I liked that game much.
Interesting. I like how the date of the poem really is required for many of the clues- so my phlogiston wasn’t too far off
But Prof. Pepperwinkle’s bubble is a great take on it (the only thing that I can’t get to fit is the orchestra clue).
Thanks all!
tdn
April 12, 2013, 8:44pm
17
Is that a whale in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
Shodan
April 12, 2013, 8:46pm
18
It must give us three guesses.
Regards,
Shodan
bup
April 12, 2013, 8:55pm
20
Disheavel:
Interesting. I like how the date of the poem really is required for many of the clues- so my phlogiston wasn’t too far off
But Prof. Pepperwinkle’s bubble is a great take on it (the only thing that I can’t get to fit is the orchestra clue).
Lawrence Welk’s bubble machine had a tape player with the canned music for the song.
Also blubber was used to sweeten brass’ tones.