US National ID to be required - good idea or bad?

[QUOTE=Tripler]
Then I will reiterate that politicians with “higher clearances” won’t either–they don’t have the authority to look at that information. Just because you have a Top Secret clearance doesn’t mean you can look at anything labeled ‘Top Secret’.

It’s one of the principles of ‘Need-to-Know’ the whole program works on. I don’t think you understand how those programs work.

Tripler
Yeah, it’s not like I can waltz back into one of our divisions and ask, “Hey, can you show me the arming codes to someone else’s bombs?”
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I always find it so funny when someone repeats what I say back to me and then says I don’t understand it. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=mswas]
Tastes of Chocolate Perhaps, I’m simply not that concerned about it.
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After the number of security breaches resently, involving personal information of thousands of people, are you really not concerned? Take a look at this list

Jan 8, 208 - Wisconsin Department of Health and Family Services - 260k social security numbers were printed on brochures.

12/28/07 - Someone steals a computer in Tennessee containing personal information, possibly including SS numbers, for every registered voter in one county. 337k people.

12/18/07 - A laptop is stolen from a home, containing information on 21k senior citizens.

12/17/07 - Information on 42k patients is on a laptop stolen from a nurse’s home

12/5/07 - records on 258k blood donors is on a stolen laptop.

11/30/07 - 150k members of a prescription insurance plan have their info exposed to someone charged with identity theft.

The list starts in Jan 05. In 3 years, the KNOWN total is over 200mill records jeapordized, and there are lots of events where the numbers effected aren’t known.

[QUOTE=Tastes of Chocolate]
After the number of security breaches resently, involving personal information of thousands of people, are you really not concerned? Take a look at this list

Jan 8, 208 - Wisconsin Department of Health and Family Services - 260k social security numbers were printed on brochures.

12/28/07 - Someone steals a computer in Tennessee containing personal information, possibly including SS numbers, for every registered voter in one county. 337k people.

12/18/07 - A laptop is stolen from a home, containing information on 21k senior citizens.

12/17/07 - Information on 42k patients is on a laptop stolen from a nurse’s home

12/5/07 - records on 258k blood donors is on a stolen laptop.

11/30/07 - 150k members of a prescription insurance plan have their info exposed to someone charged with identity theft.

The list starts in Jan 05. In 3 years, the KNOWN total is over 200mill records jeapordized, and there are lots of events where the numbers effected aren’t known.
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Right, so what this seems to show is that our security couldn’t possibly get any worse as the Social Security Number is the only info you need to fake the ID.

[QUOTE=mswas]
I always find it so funny when someone repeats what I say back to me and then says I don’t understand it. :rolleyes:
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So how many times do I/we have to repeat it until you realize you don’t understand it?

I have to say that the sheer entertainment value of watching some people get their knickers all in a twist about it is a major selling point to me for a national ID.

[QUOTE=mswas]
Right, so what this seems to show is that our security couldn’t possibly get any worse as the Social Security Number is the only info you need to fake the ID.
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I believe these are generally referred to as “famous last words.”

Although lately such remarks often seem to be followed by phrases such as: “No one could have predicted things would get worse.” So really they’re more like “penultimate words.” We may need a new category.