US Political ads: STFU. Don't even bother.

Attention US politicians and their advertisers: SHUT THE FUCK UP. Don’t even bother advertising; you’re just wasting your money.

It’s political season in the US of A, and we’re barraged by political advertisements. After being merely disdainful of them for many years, this time I have a firm rule: I’M NOT LISTENING. AT ALL. Doesn’t matter if it’s TV, radio, direct mail, or whatever. Can’t you spend your money on something else? Or don’t spend it at all; campaign spening has been obscene for ages, and is only getting worse.

It’s truly sad that political discourse has sunk this low. Dunno why, except that the Unwashed Masses have become such sheep that these ads work.

Let’s briefly consider ‘positive ads’. Politicos have become so risk-averse lest they alienate someone that their positive messages amount to, “I’m a patriotic American; I believe in motherhood and hug babies. I like puppies and kittens.” Ugh; big fucking deal. The political consultants say that positive ads don’t work; no wonder, they’re content-free.

Next, negative ads. These, the Unwashed Masses apparently remember. But they usually don’t have any basis in fact or provide any useable information. They’re required to be literally true, but, unfortunately, literally true doesn’t have any meaning in the context of political ads. Quoting something out of context is fair game. It’s still true, right? One of my favorites (from a prior year, since I’m purposely ignoring this year’s ads) was a mailing from someone that had a quote from a newspaper, (paraphrased,) “He’s a good guy”. Actually, the newspaper was endorsing the other candidate, and the newspaper actually said (paraphrased again,) “He’s a good guy, but we wouldn’t even consider voting for him if he was the last candidate on earth.”

And there’s the gambit of straw men, or implying that an opponent said something, then attacking them for the implication. Sorry; get a fucking life; I’m NOT buying it.

Incumbents always have the option of voting both ways - knowing that something won’t pass, they’ll vote yes on a meaningless prelinary vote, and no on the main measure. Or they’ll vote the opposite way on the main vote, again, with the foreknowlege that the vote will go the other way - all in the hope of securing a favorable rating from some interest group.

This sucks.

In order to vote intelligently, I have to have followed many media outlets for a long time. I use ‘independent’ media and, to some extent, 'nterest groups to help tell me who I should vote for, knowing full well that the independent media still has an agenda, and the interest groups definitely have an agenda. The political ads are less than worthless.

Ultimately, I blame the Unwashed Masses, I guess. If you weren’t so clueless and manipulable, we wouldn’t have this problem.

So, fuck the masses and fuck the politicos too. Die. Now.

I am not with you on this at all. If I’m about to accidentally vote for someone who used to wear leisure suits, I want to know about it.

YHTTT. YHL. HAND.

You Have Tried To Troll. You Have Lost. Have a Nice Day.

Political advertising still has no credibility at all.

Human Bean, I think you’re suffering from irony deficiency.

You’re preaching to the converted, here. I’m sure that the ethos to which most Dopers subscribe would never allow them to make an important decision based on a 30 second paid ad.

It would be nice if that were true for the unwashed masses. I wonder what American history would be like if that wonderful jingle “I LIKE IKE! YOU LIKE IKE! EVERYBODY LIKES IKE! (for president) SO ROLL OUT THE BARREL AND BANG THE DRUM, WE’LL TAKE IKE TO WASHINGTON!” were never penned? Well, at least the Eisenhower campaigners refrained from insulting Stevenson, and contented themselves with insulting the American electorate. Worked, anyway.

Oh, and with regards to “STFU”–

you can have this for free. I made it myself!

But without political ads, how would I have been informed that I didn’t elect Rick Perry, so I don’t have to keep him? Only Texas Democratic gubernatorial candidate Tony Sanchez has had the courage to point out that scandalous fact!

Agreed… political ads are targeted at the lowest common denominator. The question remains… are people so stupid because of political ads, or are political ads stupid because of people?

Actually, I remember one negative ad which was trying to slam some candidate (I don’t remember), and they had the Unhappy, Sinister Music playing, and the Low Sinister Voice talking, and essentially said, “Candidate X… he’s in favor of such and such, and this and that…” listing off a bunch of laws he’s favored or opposed, and I’m sitting there thinking, “But it’s for those reasons, that you find negative, that I LIKE the guy!”

So even negative ads can wind up backfiring.

Political ads remind me of commercials for the Book of Mormon… crappy, poorly-synthed elevator music in the backgroun, the constantly panning camera view (usually from left to right, circling the person who’ll either be sitting on a stool or a table, talking), and always always always showing happy smiling kids, giving the candidate a hug.

Wha? Are you talking about Bob?

Since when is posting a one-liner trolling? :confused:

Thanks, Larry, SPOOFE, et al, but since this IS the pit, not GD, I have to say that I don’t need no steenkin’ irony, thank-you-very-much.

Yes, the Montana ‘gay’ ad is an amazing example of pure sleaze, but (um, er, I didn’t actually watch the ad) isn’t asserting any facts that can be disproven, merely making slimy implications. It would be fully legal therefore, AFAIK, and nobody should go to prison over it, but a nice fat civil judgement against them would certainly be nice.

Actually, there was an excellent example of blatant high-profile lying in California - “Here’s a photo of the Governor breaking the law by accepting a campaign contribution in his office,” followed by, “Oops, nevermind.” Doesn’t matter if was malice or mere accident, the perpetrators deserve to be sodomized in prison.

I’m lucky to live in a state that conducts all it’s elections by mail now. The politicos and their henchmen have mostly (but not quite completely) figured out that last-minute attacks won’t work, so the typical ‘attack at the last minute with no time for the opponent to respond’ gambit has (almost) been removed from their bag of dirty tricks. They can be slinging all the last-minute mud they want, but I don’t care; I’ve already voted. It happened in the last election, and I fully expect some good examples of it again, so I can get a good laugh. Fortunately, the people I’ve voted for aren’t the types to use the last-minute attack allegation.

BTW (now that I’m actually awake), EXCELLENT graphic, Larry Mudd. Got a higher-res version? It’s definitely worth hanging on the wall, and possibly even on a tee shirt. Thanks.

What a coincidence! I have also made an image file just for Human Bean!

You can see it here.

Hey great, thanks, Bob!

Actually, no, not really, but I deserved it.

(Memo to self: Do NOT post when half-asleep. Duh…)

And I did it twice. Grrr. Newbie mistake, honest. It won’t happen again. (Umm, until it happens again. Then, I fully expect you to ream me a new one. I’ll be dissapointed if you don’t).

Hey, Bean. Glad you liked the pic… unfortunately, that’s the resolution I made it at. (Snagged the original pic of the web.)

It is a blatant rip-off of another, more popular image that well-may be available as a poster, and at the very least is a larger .jpg file.

Welcome to the board, by the way. I agree with your OP, and I’m sure you’ll fit in fine around here, as soon as you recognize the one thing that Dopers prize above all (with the possible exception of an informed opinion,)… … irony and biting wit.

Uh, that’s two things, isn’t it? Never mind, I’m drunk.