Use of SSN for identification

My parents are always talking about how Social Security cards used to say that they were not to be used for identification. I checked mine, and it was nowhere to be found. Was this a federal law that was repealed? Because I know of many government agencies (not to mention my university) that require my Social Security card for ID, and it wouldn’t make sense for the card to be used in an illegal manner.


“I hear the mermaids singing, each to each. I do not think that they will sing to me.” -T.S. Eliot

Cecil covered this somewhere but I’m too lazy to spend half an hour looking for the thread. Short answer is that the card itself is not legal proof that you are who you say you are (like driver’s licenses are presumed to be). But your Social Security number is required for any number of identification purposes.

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_154.html

Why does my old social security card say it can’t be used as ID?


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This quote is on the long side but all three parts are interesting:

Top Brass Hit by Scam
Web Postings Lead to Fake Credit Cards

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es/spacer.gif>
By Barbara Starr
ABCNEWS.com
W A S H I N G T O N, Dec. 8 - The Secret Service and military
authorities
have opened an investigation into a scam in which dozens of high-ranking
military officers have had their Social Security numbers taken off an
Internet site and used to illegally obtain credit cards in their names.
Some 40 senior Marine Corps generals and Navy admirals alone have
been
hit by the scam, according to Brig. Gen. Joseph Composto, the Marines’
top
lawyer.
The criminal activity appears to be a result of growing use of the
Internet.
The names and Social Security numbers of 4,800 military officers
were
posted on the Web site of a Pennsylvania-based privacy advocate seeking
to
make a point.
The information was taken from a 1997 Congressional Record report,
which
published the details as part of the record of Senate votes approving
military promotions. Since then, the Congressional Record has stopped
publishing the Social Security numbers on promotion lists.
Free Speech Issues Raised
The bank credit cards, issued by First USA Bank of Wilmington, Del.,
were
used to make purchases and obtain cash advances. Most of the accounts
were
immediately closed when the fraud was discovered.
The bank is now cooperating with federal investigators and has
waived
the $50 limit on fraudulent charges for the military officers victimized
by
the crime.
A memo written by Composto indicates that despite a direct request
from
the Secret Service, “the individual responsible for posting the names
and
SSNs refuses to remove the information from the Web page.”
Composto also said the U.S. attorney’s office has refused to
initiate
legal action against the Web site on First Amendment grounds because the
information was in the public domain in the Congressional Record.
Could ID Number Be a Threat?
Composto has also raised a related issue. In a detailed proposal made to
the
Defense Department general counsel, Composto is recommending that the
military change the service number of all individuals from their Social
Security number to an unrelated number - in large part to due to
Internet
privacy concerns.
Several years ago, the military switched to using Social Security
numbers rather than unrelated identification numbers.
“The information age presents opportunities for savvy
computer-literate
enemies, and other opponents of the United States, to use SSNs as a
method
of attack,” said Composto.
Under the Geneva Convention - a 1949 international agreement
governing
treatment of prisoners of war - POWs are required to give their military
identification number.
If, in the case of American POWs, that is their Social Security
number,
then interrogators could use that information on the Internet to find
out
personal financial and medical information, including the possible
location
of their families. <http://www.abcnews.go.com/images/aquadot.gif>


Oh, I’m gonna keep using these #%@&* codes 'til I get 'em right.

Hard to read, wasn’t it?

Top Brass Hit by Scam
Web Postings Lead to Fake Credit Cards

<http://a1328.g.akamaitech.net/7/1328/622/d60352c70a2ba1/abcnews.go.com/imag
es/spacer.gif>
By Barbara Starr
ABCNEWS.com
W A S H I N G T O N, Dec. 8 - The Secret Service and military authorities have opened an investigation into a scam in which dozens of high-ranking military officers have had their Social Security numbers taken off an
Internet site and used to illegally obtain credit cards in their names.

Some 40 senior Marine Corps generals and Navy admirals alone have been hit by the scam, according to Brig. Gen. Joseph Composto, the Marines’ top lawyer.

The criminal activity appears to be a result of growing use of the Internet. The names and Social Security numbers of 4,800 military officers were posted on the Web site of a Pennsylvania-based privacy advocate seeking
to make a point.

The information was taken from a 1997 ongressional Record report, which published the details as part of the record of Senate votes approving military promotions. Since then, the Congressional Record has stopped
publishing the Social Security numbers on promotion lists.
Free Speech Issues Raised
The bank credit cards, issued by First USA Bank of Wilmington, Del.,
were used to make purchases and obtain cash advances. Most of the accounts were
immediately closed when the fraud was discovered.

The bank is now cooperating with federal investigators and has waived the $50 limit on fraudulent charges for the military officers victimized by the crime.

A memo written by Composto indicates that despite a direct request from the Secret Service, “the individual responsible for posting the names and SSNs refuses to remove the information from the Web page.”

Composto also said the U.S. attorney’s office has refused to initiate legal action against the Web site on First Amendment grounds because the information was in the public domain in the Congressional Record.

Could ID Number Be a Threat?
Composto has also raised a related issue. In a detailed proposal made to the Defense Department general counsel, Composto is recommending that the military change the service number of all individuals from their Social Security number to an unrelated number - in large part to due to Internet privacy concerns.

Several years ago, the military switched to using Social Security numbers rather than unrelated identification numbers. “The information age presents opportunities for savvy computer-literate enemies, and other opponents of the United States, to use SSNs as a method of attack,” said Composto.

Under the Geneva Convention - a 1949 international agreement governing treatment of prisoners of war - POWs are required to give their military identification number.
If, in the case of American POWs, that is their Social Security number, then iterrogators could use that information on the Internet to find out personal financial and medical information, including the possible location of their families.
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Oh, I’m gonna keep using these #%@&* codes 'til I get 'em right.

If you are clever, you can find a SS# for someone with your name on the net…

In other words, there are a lot of people with the same name, so that number isn’t much proof of identity.

Plus here’s a site that you can look up the SSN’s of the deceased:
Social Security Death Index

Thanks, you guys, I figured that something didn’t sound quite right about that, and I thought that Cecil had covered it, but I was too lazy to look it up as well.


“I hear the mermaids singing, each to each. I do not think that they will sing to me.” -T.S. Eliot

So this isn’t about attack subs. Whaddya know.


“There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences.”
~P.J. O’Rourke~

No, but if you want one…

There hasn’t been any real privacy for decades, and anyone who thinks there has is living a pipedream! If you’ve made any kind of transaction at all, from buying a pack of gum to filing your taxes (especially the latter) you’ve left a trail.

Lousy gum…