I have a colleague who with which I work who is from the Czech Republic.
He was talking about the use of Viagara by urologists there. He said that it is used in some exams of the penis and some procedures simply because it is sometimes easier to examine an erect penis or perform certain procedures on it that way rather then a flaccid one. He said that when the procedure is finished the doctor uses a hypo shot of what he thinks is a muscle relaxant directly into the penis to “deflate” it.
I personally think he is full of BS and just screwing with everyones head. Guys can do that you know?
Can anyone here confirm that this or any part of this is true or is it just BS? I want to ask my doctor this but I don’t want her to think that I am a complete jerk.
I don’t need any more stress about visiting a doctor. I hope he is just full of it?
Thanks.
If you did jerk, then she wouldn’t need to give you the Viagra.
Seriously, it doesn’t seem at all implausible to me that an erect penis might be easier for some medical purposes than a flaccid one, and if that’s the case, how would you expect a doctor to arrange for that to happen?
He only needs one hand for the stethoscope.
In the brochures you read for Viagra and Cialis and the like, they always say that they will not cause an erection unless your sexually stimulated to begin with. The thing being, who wants to have an instant erection and have to walk around with it.
So it seems even if the doctor gave Viagra the patient would still have to be sexually aroused to get an erection. That’s the way the drug information reads, I’ve never taken either drug so I wouldn’t know first hand
Good choice of words.
Like I said, I think it is BS but I am not a doctor and no way I would even ask the doctor that but I thought it was possible.
Procedure techniques vary. Sounded like it could be true.
I thought I would ask it here since there are doctors and med students that hang out here.
I didn’t mean to offend anyone.
I’ve never taken either drug either but it was my understanding that the Viagara works within 15 to 20 minutes without any stimulation.
I have read that the male professional porn stars use it regularly and pop them every time they have a scene coming up.
The ads for Cealis say something like you will be ready at a moments notice and that one pill is good for three days?
I’m getting the impression that the medical people are staying away from this because they think it is ridiculous, but I asked the question legitimately.
I would hope that a doctor would chime in and dispel it if possible. Even anonymously it is embarrassing to ask.
There is a warning on the Viagra that if your erection lasts more then 4 hours call a doctor. The muscle relaxant shot makes sense and I think that is what would be done so it sounds like it could be true.
I doubt if a doctor needed a drug to make a penis erect, that they would choose Viagra. As was mentioned, you still need sexual stimulation even with Viagra. All that Viagra does is make it easier for blood to fill the penis, it doesn’t cause an erection.
However, I could see using some other medications, such as Alprostadil, in order to force an erection. But I’m not an urologist, so don’t know if it is done in practice.
Oh, and it isn’t normally a muscle relaxer that would be used to deflate the penis, it would be a vasodialator of some kind, or just removing the blood itself. The penis doesn’t get erect due to muscles as much as due to filling with blood.
I am not familiar with any medical indication requiring a tumescent penis, other than the obvious one of helping to determine various causes of erectile dysfunction. I am not a urologist, however. I can think of rare, but artificial, circumstances where an erect penis might be more easily examined for conditions such as an intermittent paraphimosis, but frankly, that’s a bit of a stretch.
There is such a thing as an intra-penile injection (specifically, intra-corporeal injection) as a treatment for certain types of priapism. Phenylephrine, for example, is used for this. I’ve injected it as a treatment for sustained priapism in the emergency department. The presumed physiology, as I recall, is that vasoconstriction caused by the phenylephrine limits inflowing blood and therefore enables detumescence because the ratio of incoming blood to outgoing blood is diminished. It is actually an alpha-agonist, interestingly enough; not the vasodilator you might be expecting would be the best choice.
On a side note, stuff that happens “in the Czech Republic” somehow reminds me of the Weekly World News. (p.46 for Czech item about beer drinking.) Very interesting and always newsworthy, but not necessarily researched with a great deal of rigor.
CAUTION!!: Do NOT click on the WWNews link unless you are prepared to get sucked into reading the greatest newspaper ever written…
Well thanks guys. I was pretty sure this was BS. Thanks for replying.
Your thought about what happens in the Czceh Republic should stay there is well taken.
The same guy told be that I didn’t want to know any of the women there. They were all strangely perverted. He refused to explain though. Of course that made me very curious, if you know what I mean, but maybe it had something to do with this urologist/viagara thing?
Enough said. No more Czech Republic stories for me…but still, what exactly do you think those women are into…nah, enough is enough?
Somewhat counterintuitively, a muscle relaxant injected into the penis will help cause an erection. At least, after you get over the horror of having a needle stuck into your penis.
Have not taken Viagra, but I have taken Levitra (which, as I understand it, works very similarly). It takes at least an hour for it to really start working, and it works better still if you give it at least 2 hours’ head start. My doctor refers to it as the “Disneyland” pill – a 2 hour wait for a 3-minute thrill ride.
And, as others have posted, all it does is make stimulation more likely to produce an effective erection. There has to be some level of “input”.
You’re misunderstanding the (arguably unclear) ads. Cialis works in the same basic way as Viagra and Levitra, but it sticks around as an effective drug in the body for considerably longer than the other two. If you take Viagra or Levitra, the effects wear off after a few hours. Cialis’s effects apparently last for somewhere between 18 and 36 hours. What they’re implying in the ads is that you can take it, say, at the beginning of the weekend, and be “ready to go” whenever the mood strikes you over the course of the weekend. (And, Cialis is now also available in a dosage which you take every day.)
15 years later, I’m still trying to get over the horror. I had intrapenile injections of Caverject as part of a couple of exceedingly unpleasant medical procedures (look for my story here), and I can’t believe self-adminstered Caverject was ever prescribed as a treatment for ED.
Anyway, yes, Caverject (mentioned upthread as Alprostadil) and its ilk are the weapons of choice when a doc needs to induce an involuntary boner for medical reasons.
Yeah, but Viagra really widens the definition of what qualifies as “sexual stimulation,” particularly if you don’t have profound erectile dysfunction.
I think for most people it effectively would lead to a practically spontaneous erection, since stimulus with a non-sexual context (such as the contact of your trousers as you walk, etc) will produce a boner a short order.
I wouldn’t want to take one in anticipation of nookie that was a couple hours away, and then get on a cross-town bus, and I’m confident that it would work for a urologist’s purpose without the need for porn or a medical “fluffer” - it would be difficult to avoid an erection if someone was handling your penis, even if you had zero attraction to them or their gender. Awkward as hell, I imagine - but it’d get the job done.
The mechanism of action of sildenafil (Viagra) is vasodilation, so a vasodilator would be the last thing you’d need to reverse it.
It doesn’t, and that’s one reason it’s preferred (as a prescription for ED) over injectable vasodilators: it results in a more natural response[sup]*[/sup]. Take Caverject, and you WILL have an erection, even in the most unsexual situation you can think of. Provided the blood vessels involved are normal, It works absolutely independently of any arousal. OTOH, if you take Viagra, you won’t get a boner at all in the absence of of sexual stimulus. “Sexual” stimulus is a subjective thing, but it definitely is not merely any physical stimulus. If your pants rubbing on your crotch didn’t excite you even slightly before, it won’t result in any kind of an erection after taking Viagra.
Trust me, I’ve tried 'em both.
[sup]*[/sup]The other reason, of course, is that injectables involve needles.
Others have explained why Viagra would be a poor choice for inducing an on-demand, short term erection. That said, it is - AFAIK - easier to insert a catheter or urethral sound when the penis is erect. However, it’s not particularly difficult to to this when the penis is flaccid, so I don’ t know why a urologist (who ought to be experienced in both procedures) would need the patient’s penis to be erect for the procedure.
Hmmm. I took Viagra on a semi-regular basis a few years back (after some unreliability in that area which varicocele surgery seemed to sort out, though I am assured there ought not to have been a causal relationship there) and my experience was that on the few occasions when I took it anticipating something that turned out not to manifest, there wasn’t a damn thing I could do to avoid an awkward boner.
Even my go-to boner-banishing imagery (old people eating oatmeal) did nothing. Nothing.
Sometimes a strange weird subject posting develops into a discussion of some socially redeeming value. I think that happened here?
Thanks everyone for posting. I think I leaned something here and wish I could remember some of the terms you guys (are there any gals here) posted.
I think the trap that got me was that I know the porno guys do use it. I would think that the comment above about the stuff working almost instantly on a healthy individual with a stimulus as little as maybe a little breeze blowing (no dirty pun intended) is approaching the truth?
Oh, and I have no idea what use an erect penis would have in any exam or procedure. Like I said I’m not a doctor BUT I think it wouldn’t be a bad idea for MD’s to come and talk to us like rational adults (I’m not that nuts Doc, really). We are all working towards trust here and every little bit helps in my eyes.
Indeed it is. Well done, sir.
You’re correct, I was wrong. That’s what happens when you post while drinking. I was thinking one thing, and wrote the other. Oh well. Thanks for correcting my mistake.