Few things grind my gears more than people who by experience and education are completely ignorant about a subject and then proceed to argue with me about it or say that it’s easy. I actually know quite a lot about supply chains and logistics seeing as it was a big part of my career so therefore I’m well aware that my even my knowledge and experience has little relevance to suppling military warships.
Again: It’s not easy; it’s solved. Those are two different things.
Yes, you solved all the Navy’s problems. Congratulations!!
That was easy!
Show me how all of Lincoln’s problems can be solved by your proposals.
No, the dumbass is the one who can’t read the first three words of the post.
No, I didn’t solve the Navy’s problems, and I can’t show you how they’re solved. Because, again, I’m not a logistics expert. But the logistics experts do exist, and they can solve these problems, and they already work for the Navy.
Can they? Will they? Because I have it on good authority from the “mostest experienced man who cannot tell us anything” that we have been starving carrier crews for at least a decade.
Close. Existing carriers use steam catapults. Only the USS Gerald R. Ford has EMALS (Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System) for its catapults. The Ford-class is going to be slowly replacing the Nimitz-class in the coming decades, and TFG has had a hate boner about them for some reason since his first administration. My personal guess is he sees ‘electromagnetic’ and thinks it’s some green energy system like windmills, but who the hell really knows. He wanted the EMALS scrapped back in 2017 but has issued a memorandum to have them removed and the Ford-class redesigned to replace them with ‘proven’ steam catapults. Never mind how huge of a redesign that actually is or how expensive it’s going to be.
OK, what is the basis for your belief? You obviously have a great deal of knowedge of logistics, the Navy’s current capacity, the overall situation and more in order to come to this conclusion. I’m in awe.
What is solved? Who solved them? What specific problems are there now and how have they been solved? Everything is easy if you ignore the details, but you know that these specfic problems have been solved. Got it.
Cite. I asked for that previously.
Is this practicial? Cite.
And again, we should forward this to the Department of the Navy. They may not be aware the planes can land on carriers.
Cite.
And does this solve all of the problems? Are there no other problems? What is the basis for your belief?
How is the relevant to the current situation? Show your work.
Cite.
Cite.
Dr. Sal Mercogliano, the expert cited above in the 30-minute video explaining some of the problems in this situation would be terribly embarrassed if he only realized how simple this is.
I feel sorry for him now, he spend time in merchant marine, studies this full time and writes articles such as this one from December 2020 where he explains that the US doesn’t currently have the logisitics capacity:
Should the Navy have to reduce its presence, lose access to some of its few remaining forward bases, and then deploy into an area that it does not expect, it currently lacks the means to do so. The maritime infrastructure of the nation needs significant investment so it could quickly prepare its vessels. The Navy needs to invest in tenders or modular repair facilities to maintain ships in a forward operating area. It would also need vessels and crews to replenish them, meaning a viable American merchant marine with ships, trained personnel, and shipyards.
Obvously, he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Let’s just keep this a secret from him, OK?
Oh, “rumor has it”? So you’re not really saying anything , it’s kind of like you’re “just asking questions” or something, huh?
Fuck off, already.
Do you think it’s unreasonable to question the official narrative, given the number of times the President of the United States has declared victory and said that Iran has been “totally destroyed”?
Trump declared victory on day 8 of the war and he has declared victory again several more times since. If this is what five months of “victory” looks like then yeah, I’m going to ask some questions.
Positing that there have actually been hundreds of unreported (and apparently unnoticed and unremarked upon, by anyone, including their families or other service members) deaths in this war is a long way off from merely “question[ing] the official narrative.”
I think on the one hand it is perfectly fine to question the narrative. Trump and co. lie reflexively with every breath they take. Reminds me of a former boss who was just compulsive that way.
On the other there is questioning the narrative and then there is conspiracy theory credulity. Trillions of dollars doesn’t past the CT smell test as it is almost certainly an order or two of magnitude more than what it would take to rebuild every U.S. base in the Middle East from scrap. Hundreds of lives doesn’t past the CT smell test because there is simply no concealing hundreds of military deaths from thousands of family members and friends (not to mention non-U.S. media groups like Al-Jazeera who would be all over that shit) for more then a very, very short period of time.
I don’t trust Trump on…well…any subject. But I also don’t trust wild-ass rumors that don’t make a lot of logical sense to me.
But hey, I’ll be the first to admit I’m wrong if we find out the Abraham Lincoln and George H.W. Bush were actually both sunk weeks ago 
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Exactly. It’s conspiracy theory-level thinking. And it reeks of a similar CT I encountered during the Iraq War, in which a “journalist” (actually, I believe a political cartoonist) posited that the US government was hiding thousands of Iraq War deaths by callously loading dying or even already dead (but not officially “pronounced dead”) troops onto medevac flights out of the country, just so they would be pronounced dead somewhere else. The idea being that as long as they were pronounced dead outside Iraq, they wouldn’t count as Iraq War deaths.
Which was preposterous on its face, because I would read the casualty (well, fatality) lists every day and note that many of the deaths were “died of wounds” at Army medical facilities in places like Germany and even San Antonio. Clearly still counted as Iraq War deaths. They were even including, between Iraq and Afghanistan, deaths that merely occurred in the Middle East (such as accidental deaths or even natural causes that occurred in places like Bahrain, Kuwait, or even, in a few instances, sailors who were lost overboard at sea) as Iraq or Afghanistan war deaths. There was one particularly heartbreaking story of a young man who was a quadriplegic who, years later, demanded to have his assisted-breathing stopped so that he could just die already. He couldn’t stand being quadriplegic anymore. And so he died. That death got counted as a war casualty too.
So it’s not only conspiracy theorizing, it’s actually committing the very same sin that the administration is committing: it is (almost literally) erasing those deaths that were recorded, as if they never occurred, just to support some fringe conspiracy theory.
So frankly, fuck you and your “rumor has it” nonsense, @TruCelt.
Oddly enough, this is the concept of an apparently popular Star Trek novel, Serpents Among the Ruins. Starfleet “saves up” every death for some period of time and then blames them all on the Romulans when something blows up. I never really liked that novel and I agree, it’s a ridiculous idea.
I don’t think it’s too out there to imagine ships fudging the mental health paperwork, especially because that Admiral from CENTCOM admitted as much with his comment about the low number of cases. Is it low because everyone is happy or is it low because the paperwork isn’t getting filed? And I think it’s possible that sailors who jump off the deck are being categorized as accidents rather than suicide attempts however for that to be true, I’d need to assume that this administration actually cares.
Neither do I. Among the many experiences I had during my several years in the Navy was talking to the psych on a CVN. After several months, they decided I was crazy and shouldn’t be supervising nuclear reactors anymore. So they finally reassigned me and now here I am today.
But you know, when they wrote up the paperwork to have me “de-nuked” (to remove my nuclear AQD, that is “additional qualification designator”) they wrote it up as if the instant I first appeared at medical to see the psych, they had removed me from my nuclear duties, and it’s like the several months I spent still serving as Reactor Training Assistant and standing watch as Reactor Duty Officer (we were in port during this time) never happened.
So I get it. Truly I do. While the administration can and is misclassifying deaths (as occurring, but insisting they aren’t war deaths because they occurred during the so-called “cease fire”) and probably also undercounting the number of mental health cases aboard Lincoln, they cannot hide literally hundreds of deaths from being even reported on. People would know. Word would have gotten out by now if there were so many.
Robert Shaw in a crappy 1960s war movie.
Ironic. By the 1970s, he (kind of) was the cake.
Given that “trillions of dollars” would be the equivalent of a couple of years of the entire US defense budget, that’s a hell of a lot of damage.
I’m really impressed that a few bases can cost that much! The Failing Mainstream Media has hinted that 9 or 10 bases have been hit, so $200 billion per base!!
I would ask for a cite, but obviously this is “a rumor” so no need for fact checks.
I didn’t see it, but if I posted shit like that, I’d be too embarrassed to log on for a week.
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I must say, the English with fake German accents are atrocious.
Oh, it wasn’t mentioned that this was a documentary.