Vacation in DC? Advice appreciated....

Fella bilong missus flodnak and I have been talking about our next trip to the States in a few years (the boys would be 5 and 11). A vague plan is forming already, involving giving the little flodnaks one Christmas in America to remember, and then going on a sightseeing trip afterwards. The problem is, where do we then spend the New Year’s holiday?

One of the places we’d like to see is Washington, DC. What is it like there around New Year’s Day? Crowded with tourists, deserted, what? I know it’s not the best time, weather-wise, to visit (“Half-inch of snow completely closes DC, film at 11!”). But it seems many of the museums and other points of interest don’t completely close for the holiday (provided it doesn’t snow…). Because the boys will still be so young, we won’t be looking for any more excitement on NYE than watching the celebrations on TV from the comfort of our hotel room, so that’s not an issue.

Good idea, or keep looking?

The Smithsonian museums and the zoo will be open, except on Christmas Day. The National Christmas Tree will be up. It is very much the low season, tourism-wise. If you hit the Mall on 1/1, parking should be a breeze.

I think it’s a wonderful idea. We’ll meet you for lunch and sight-seeing. If DC shuts down, head up to Baltimore by train and we’ll do the town there.

My advice is to not skimp on a cheap hotel in D.C. – go to a major chain and be prepared to pay over $150 U.S. a night. There are parts of D.C. that you won’t want to drive through them, let alone lodge. But you’ll be fine if you stick to the tourist areas.

Check to see if you can bring a stroller into the Smithsonian. If so, you might want to bring one or rent one for your 5 year old. You may think he’s too big for one, but museums are usually pretty boring for 5 year old children and a stroller may buy you more time.

Good luck!

You could probably pay for your whole trip by smuggling in a suitcase full of “McAfrika Burgers.” :smiley:

Don’t be afraid to call a big hotel in downtown DC and ask what kind of a deal they can give you on a weekend rate. They quite often are empty(although New Years may be tough). We got half price stuff for a Fri-Sat night.

The city is a ghost town on federal holidays (go figure). Most New Years parties are held in hotels and you have to buy tickets well in advance. The only official NYE celebration I’ve ever seen was the big millenium celebration, which was held 1 year before the start of the new millenium. Aside from that I don’t think there ever is a city-wide celebration like there is in NYC.

And in case you do want to skimp on the hotel and go for a cheapie, there is The Braxton located in Mid-City Northwest. Caution: the rooms are small. And I DO mean small . But when I go on vacation, I don’t spend a lot of time in the hotel so I like them small & inexpensive, YMMV.

This seems like a good place to unload the list of general FYI links I’ve been collecting for my web site.

Geographic & Technical Data:

NOAA Weather for Washington DC:
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/data/forecasts/DCZ001.php?warncounty=DCC001&city=Washington

Government & Politics:

DC Home Page:
http://www.washingtondc.gov/

Washington DC, The American Experience:
http://www.washington.org/

FirstGov - Your First Click to the US Government:

Newspapers:

The Washington Post:

USA Today:

Washington Times:
http://www.washtimes.com/

Washington Business Journal:
http://washington.bizjournals.com/washington/

Roll Call (Congressional News & Info):

Washingtonian Magazine:

The Intowner (Neighborhood news and information in Adams Morgan, Mt. Pleasant and Columbia Heights,
Dupont, Scott, Thomas and Logan Circles; Dupont East, U Street, Shaw & Mt Vernon Square:
http://www.intowner.com/

Washington City Paper:

Arts, Culture & Education:

The John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts:

Wolf Trap, America’s National Park for the Performing Arts:
http://www.wolf-trap.org/

Ford’s Theater:

Arena Stage:
http://www.arenastage.org/home1.shtml

Shakespeare Theatre:

Studio Theatre:
http://www.studiotheatre.org/

Smithsonian:

National Geographic:

National Science Foundation:
http://www.nsf.gov/

General DC Info & links:

DC Pages:
http://www.dcpages.com/

Area Post Offices:
http://mapsonus.switchboard.com/bin/maps-lastfindres/usr=~3d5282f5.b6cba.f13.5/c=1/refsrc=USPS/isredir=1/

The Embassies of Washington DC:
http://www.embassy.org/embassies/

Whitman-Walker Clinic
http://www.wwc.org/

Getting Around DC:

Metrorail System Map:
http://www.wmata.com/metrorail/systemmap.cfm

Eats:

Washington PostRestaurant Guide:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/searches/restrant.htm

DC’s Favorite Restaurants (according to A La Carte Delivery Service):
http://www.alacart.com/

The Great Outdoors:

US National Arboretum:
http://www.usna.usda.gov/

National Park Service guide to Rock Creek Park:

Dumbarton Oaks Gardens:

Local Businesses:

(Grocers/Markets)

Fresh Fields Whole Foods Market (1440 P St. NW):
http://www.wholefoods.com/company/dc.html

Safeway (1701 Corcoran St Nw):
http://direct.where2getit.com/maptools/geoproc.cgi/safeway?action=fieldquery&qfield=Store&qvalue=923&country=US

Giant Foods (1414 Eighth St. N.W.):
http://www.giantfood.com/admin/store/store_images/map_156.gif

Marvelous Market:
http://www.marvelousmarket.com/

General/Convenience Stores:

CVS:
http://cvsstore.geoserve.com/scripts/esrimap.dll?Name=L&Com=adr&Db=DLRCvs&Ds=Store&RT=lo&LIM=200&Zp=20005&Ci=&St=&Filt=&x=33&y=5

I can’t really say anything more than to echo what others have said, and Attrayant gave you some excellent sites to check out, btw. But it’s probably a great time to visit the Smithsonian museums, and they’re all -free-!!! I believe that you are allowed to bring strollers in, and you might want one, cause the mall area is quite a stroll. :slight_smile:

At the zoo, you can rent strollers; it’s large as well, and hilly in many places, btw. If you go to the Zoo on the Metro, please get off at the Cleveland Park station, not the Woodley Park/Zoo station; it’s an uphill climb from there, and downhill from Cleveland Park–and both stations are about equi-distant from the Zoo.

I really would advise using the Metro to get around as much as you possibly can. Parking downtown is really at a premium–either you can’t find a space, or you pay through the nose at a parking garage/lot. Metro also goes into Maryland and Virginia–you can even get off at Arlington Cemetery, if you want to visit there.

There is not a large celebration in the city of DC itself for NYE, although some of the surrounding communities do offer those “First Night” programs (I think Alexandria VA usually does, and there’s also one in Rockville MD, I think). And Baltimore, as GingeroftheNorth pointed out, is only 30 miles away, so you could also visit there! :slight_smile:

Hope you will enjoy your visit when you come. :slight_smile:

Ask about hotels in Crystal City, Arlington, VA. They cater to the business traveler, and this is a slack time for business travel. You might be able to get a good deal.

Forgot to say, Crystal City is right on the metro line.

Be sure to start a thread in MPSIMS several weeks before you come about a Washington dopefest. I’m sure there will be lots of people happy to meet you whenever it would be convenient. There’s far more to see than you’ll have time for. It would take a couple weeks just to see all the interesting things in the Smithsonian. As other people have said, use the Metro. Washington may be somewhat expensive by the standards of small-town U.S., but it’s no worse than the big cities of Europe, so I don’t think that should bother you. The only thing that could screw you up is the small but real chance that there will be a snowstorm.

Don’t try to do all the Smithsonians in one day. There are too many of them and each of them requires a minimum of six hours to be properly enjoyed.

The kids will likely enjoy Air & Space and Natural History the most. The east wing of the National Gallery is the best of the art museums, although National Portrait Gallery/Museum of American Art (same building, practically the same museum) remains my personal favorite. Museum of American History was a disappointment last time I went there (much of it was in disrepair).

Other posters are right about no major New Years Eve celebrations in DC – but the Hotels have them, so you may need to be careful. A Hotel Room normally going for $150 p/night, in many places will be more expensive the night of 12/31-1/1

While official Washington will be open that day alot of stuff - restaurants, plays, movies ect. may not be… but that is true wherever you are in the US 1/1 & my WAG is there is at least as much to do in DC as in anyplace in the US that day. So my bottomline: Good Idae.

IMO: the Natl. Zoo is best in Winter, on a weekday- there are no crowds, almost at all. Same with the Museums and Monuments. Cold, but not Norway cold I’d guess.

Having spent my formative years (1947-1967) in Arlington, I would suggest you take out insurance on the possiblity that you will be hit by lightning. You will be richer by far.

I spent more Christmas-New Years throwing a football outside in shirt sleeves than I did hunkering down in a snowsuit.

Come prepared for a wide potential range of weather. Probably milder than you would think.

Having spent 18 of the last 21 years in the Washington area, I think you’re exaggerating, samclem. Yeah, it’s not very likely that that particular weekend will have a snowstorm. Usually the height of winter is the end of January or the beginning of February. The point is that once every two or three years Washington does have a snowstorm that closes everything down for a day or two. It’s within the range of possibility that New Year’s weekend could be that time.

…Or we could have a New Years Eve Dopefest at the Weird-North house…

Snow that early is kinda doubtful, but come prepared for wind (mufflers, earmuffs, etc.).

Depending on the temperature, the zoo might not be your best bet–there’s a lot of outside walking involved.

Air & Space and Natural History are the best museums; the latter has an insect zoo.

Plus, you should really check out the Capital Children’s Museum–it’s lots of fun. http://www.ccm.org/

DC is great, and kids generally find the metro an inexpensive but fun way to get around. But don’t be too disappointed if you can’t get tickets to go into the White House, because security is really tight right now.

If you’re looking for a good value in lodging, look for the Hotel Harrington. Great location (http://www.hotelharrington.com/mapdrivingdirections.htm) and great prices (starting at $89 for a family of four). It’s a little run down, but clean.

I grew up in the DC area and although I’m not keen to live there, there’s quite a lot to like.

The National Portrait Gallery/National Museum of American art is, sadly, closed until 2004/05 while they renovate their shared home - a jewel of a buidling that once was the patent office. Save it for when the kids are older.

I am a big fan of the National Museum of African art, which is something the kids might like, too. It’s housed underground in the courtyard of the Smithsonian Castle. They’ve done a marvelous job of curating the whole museum in a very appealing way.

Much of the Natural History Museum is, I’m afraid to say, in even worse shape than the American History Museum next door. But one fantastic exception is the geology exhibit, which includes the Hope Diamond (beautiful, but rather smaller than I thought) and merits seeing for the rest of the collection - one of the world’s greatest.

For American culture, I recommend a visit to the National Archives, which is just north of the Mall. Even for someone as cynical as I am, there is something deeply moving about seeing the Declaration, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. And it’s Right and Proper to have the young’uns view them - to know that many people fought and died for these three documents, which have been the light of the world.

Argh! I just went to the website to see if they’re open on New Years, only to find that they’re closed until 2003 as they re-encase the Founding Documents. (There’s a nifty description of the process here. I’d forgotten that there was quite a to-do - the old cases had lasted 50 years, their expected lifetimes, so it was time.)

The Holocaust Memorial Museum is another great visit, albeit heavy. They do have a fairly effective exhibit for children. It may be something to do on a later trip, or for the grownups to do.

In all my years living near DC I never went to the White House. From all reports I’ve heard it’s not all that interesting - and the crowds are enormous, the lines long, and the security tighter than ever. Instead, I’d visit the Capitol, where the crowds are lighter, especially over the holidays, and the guides are engaging.

You might also visit the Jefferson Building of the Library of Congress, which is just behind the Capitol (meaning to the east - I always think of the Mall side as the “front”). It’s a gorgeous beaux-arts pile, marvelous when you think that anyone - anyone! - can walk in and use it. There’s no better symbol of American democracy than that.

If the weather’s really cold the U.S. Botanic Garden offers relief. It’s on the Mall side of the Capitol.

December’s actually not a bad time for DC. You’ve a decent chance of bright, chilly weather, which I find perfectly fine for touristing in.

One thing to note: distances around the Mall are rather long, and other than (overpriced, underflavored) Smithsonian cafeterias, there’s not much to eat. Pack snacks and drinks.

I was at the Natural History Museum this past New Year’s Day…It was glorious…hardly anyone else there. I had the Hope Diamond to myself. Winter is a great time to visit DC…certainly better than the heighth of summer.

You can purchase or obtain free receive time-dated tickets for some of the more popular sites, thus saving you from standing in long lines. This can be done over the internet well ahead of time, if desired. Off the top of my head, I know the Washington Monument and Holocaust Museum offer this service for a nominal cost.

There are years worth of monuments, parks, museums, etc. in the DC area, so a guidebook and an idea of what sort of things you want to see is useful.