Van lifer goes missing on cross country trip with fiancee

That makes a little more sense.

It would seem like in 2021, the police would have a linked computer database to coordinate among themselves. There are two officers, Barney and Gomer who can’t tell the difference between a 55 year old woman and a 22 year old young man, who are watching the house. They should have access to the names, vehicles, plate numbers, VINs, etc. of the people that they are watching.

When another officer, even of another department, flags a car for being abandoned, that should go into the same system so that Barney and Gomer are alerted that this has taken place. Is that asking too much or too costly of a computer system?

I’m guessing that might be asking for something too Big-Brotherish for the tastes of many.

For that matter, it’s a difficult problem to solve. The FBI threw $170 million at the Virtual Case File project in the early 00’s, and stopped only after it failed completely. They were looking to be in similar trouble on a successor project named Sentinel a few years later that ended up landing by FY2012. And that’s one organization, with a single set (though large) of procedures and needs for the software, not even mentioning the kinds of changes that would be needed for something cross-departmental.

I don’t know the specifics of the capabilities of the police and sheriff operations in Sarasota County (where North Port is located), but I do know that their primary mission is protecting prosperous white residents from being annoyed by uppity non-white residents (who are relatively few in number and, presumably, suitably cowed).

Surveilling a white family isn’t really in their usual wheelhouse.

Wikipedia on North Port:

Wikipedia on Sarasota County:

Hey. Hey. People make mistakes:

Any information on when we might know if they’re able to salvage information from the notebook?

The last news story I can find that mentions the notebook dates from two weeks ago; none contain any estimates on when results of salvage attempts might be published.

Of possible interest: a story from two days back about a woman looking for more human remains in the Florida nature preserve in which some as-yet-undisclosed portion of a human skeleton were (famously) found on October 21:

My bolding; real information on the remains, as well as on the notebook, have both been in short supply.

I’m not going to argue anything bout the Laundries. We did not at the time (and definitely not now) know they didn’t talk to the police. However, I wish to address this bit:

Because that is the whole reason the law exists. Jail is the prescribed punishment that we as a society have agreed upon as atonement (i.e. payment) for certain crimes. By your logic, the Catholic church didn’t do anything wrong when they covered up for the police. I mean, the pedophiles went to their priests/bishops. If they can get atonement there, then they have paid for their crime and should not be punished. No, atonement for crimes against society requires going through a society’s legal system.

There is value in saying that you shouldn’t talk to the police. Getting a lawyer is the right move if there is any chance you suspicious, due to how our adversarial court system works. But I do think you morally should cooperate as much as you can with an investigation, even if you do it safely by going through a lawyer.

Laundrie’s death has been ruled a suicide, by gunshot wound to the head.

Just like any totally innocent person would do.

I wonder if the autopsy includes genetic testing or are they going to rely on dental records.

They’ve had the autopsy, and yes, his identity was confirmed by dental records back in October.

Interesting to have confirmation that they found enough of his remains to conclusively rule suicide by GSW. From the earlier press, I had doubt they’d put together enough remains to answer “cause of death” and “manner of death” with any certainly.

Even if a gator chews on you, perhaps a lodged bullet would still be evident.

A gunshot wound to the head is going to leave extremely identifiable damage on every bit of skull they find. Did nobody here watch Bones? :smiley:

How do they know he was shot by himself and not by someone else, or by an alligator? Did they find the gun?

I won’t rest until they find the gator and check his paws for gunshot residue.

It’s unclear how much of the skull or his remains in general were found although at least some descriptions say ‘part of a human skull.’ We know the autopsy was inconclusive and they had to send what they had to an anthropologist.

I blame Obama.

I wonder if authorities will EVER disclose more information about what was found. It’s difficult to have confidence that this isn’t merely a case of wanting to close the books as soon as possible.

For example, I’d be amazed if any law-enforcement resources are being spent on the journal (now or when it was found). The thinking could be ‘why should we bother, if it’s a closed case?’

(And a ready excuse is right at hand: that many people would criticize resources being put to work to deal with the murder of a person who got a lot a media attention, considering that other missing/murdered people get very little media attention.)

I don’t think that’s a good excuse—but I bet it’s being employed.