"Viager" – property acquisition in France using annuity arrangement – would you do this?

My wife and I are approaching the end of our working years, and are looking at buying an apartment in France for at least the first few years of retirement. We’ve encountered a purchase option that, as far as we know, has no equivalent back in the US, and we’re struggling with the right way to think about it. We’re not looking for advice, in the sense of being told whether or not it’s a good idea. But it would be helpful to have people “ponder out loud” at us from their own perspective.

The thing we’re looking at is called a “viager occupé.” In French, viager literally means “life annuity.” There are a number of complexities and nuances (especially around tax implications), but the basic picture looks like this.

Say there’s a piece of property, held by an elderly owner. This person wants to supplement their income for the remaining years of their life. They can offer their property to a buyer with the following terms: The buyer makes a substantial down payment (in French, the “bouquet”), typically around 25-30% of the property’s assessed value; the buyer further agrees to make monthly payments to the elderly owner (rente viagère). The owner stays in their residence until they die. At that point, assuming the buyer’s payments have been kept current, the buyer takes possession.

The amount of the monthly payment is calculated using actuarial data, based on statistical assumptions about how long the resident is expected to live. The basic idea (if we’re reading the technical details correctly) is to put around 60% of the value of the property into the pocket of the owner up until their (statistically expected) death. That means the buyer is likely to get a substantial discount on the property. If the resident seller dies sooner than predicted, that discount is larger. However, if the elderly owner lives longer than normal, that discount shrinks over time, as the buyer continues paying against the contract. If the owner lives a lot longer, it’s possible to go beyond the breakeven point, and eventually acquire the property at, effectively, a net loss. Also, the rente viagère is not fixed; it’s variable, taking cost-of-living factors and other adjustments into consideration.

There’s no additional paperwork required to take possession of the property when the seller dies. Effectively, the property is “already sold,” though the transfer doesn’t happen until the death is recorded. If the seller has heirs, they have no claim on the property, because, again, it’s been pre-sold. (The one exception to this is if the seller suddenly dies within a couple of weeks of executing the agreement; the heirs can petition to have the sale annulled. That’s not common, obviously.)

If you’re confused by my overview, here’s an informational page that explains things in a little more detail.

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Sample scenario from the first linked page above:

It seems to us there are a couple of different ways to think about this.

From a purely financial standpoint, this is obviously a gamble, though statistically it’s a pretty good one. Most buyers will come out ahead, in terms of money invested versus property value (especially because the property is likely to increase in value over time). If the seller dies when the actuarial table says they will, the buyer gets something like a 40% discount. Even if the seller hangs on for a while, it takes many years to reach breakeven, and the buyer is still coming out ahead any time before then.

There are occasional examples of the seller continuing to live an extraordinarily long life, which means the buyer loses more and more money on the deal, but they’re rare enough that they make the news (see the story of Jeanne Calment at the end of the BBC article linked above). Also, for expensive residences in desirable locations, the monthly payment tends to be pretty high (the lowest we’ve seen is €1500, ranging up to €4000 for the really premium properties). Still, if you can manage that, and if you can accept the relatively small risk that the seller might live to extreme old age, then, purely financially, it’s a pretty good deal.

There are also the purely practical considerations of committing to a sale where the condition of the property might change unpredictably over the course of several (or many) years. What if there’s a fire, or a flood? There’s insurance, naturally, but the coverage terms can be complex. Also, the seller is an elderly person; what if they’re not able to properly manage the upkeep on their own, and you take possession of a property fifteen years down the road that’s been suffering from slow water damage, unruly pets, hoarding, or other problems? What if the owner dies unnoticed, and you end up acquiring an apartment that’s had a decomposing body on the floor for some number of weeks? These kinds of risks can’t be estimated the same way as the financial predictions.

And then there’s the moral dimension. It feels very strange, going into a transaction where the financial success of our purchase is directly dependent on the seller’s rapid death. We would of course hope the seller gets the full expected value of the deal, but then if they keep living, it would be very uncomfortable, the antsy feeling of wishing for the seller to just die already. And yet, this is a popular and well-established sales model in France, going back literally over a thousand years. By some reports, vente en viager accounts for fully one percent of all property transfers (and it’s starting to catch on elsewhere). Balanced against the morbid side, you have the positive moral benefit of knowing that the arrangement brings stability to an elderly person’s finances, and allows them to stay comfortably in their established familiar residence, instead of being forced out into cheaper retirement housing.

So, there you go, that’s what we’re looking at. If you were in our shoes, and you had the opportunity to enter into a deal like this, how would you think about it?

I wouldn’t touch it personally. Risk vs reward seems high.
If the prior owner lives even 5 more years, that could be a lot of defered maintenance and damage.

Financially you’re putting yourself in a position where someone dying early is your benefit and living longer hurts you. Very icky to me.

My memory is being tickled by the way back machine. I seem to remember a couple that did something like this only to have the elderly owner outlive them both (into the early 100s) and the family/estate still having to pay the ‘rent’.

Something I’ve looked at were houses offered for 1 euro in Italy/Spain. The requirement was to live there and renovate the quarters. Generally very small towns in rural areas looking to maintain population and jobs for craftsmen.

Jeanne Calment. The Calment Boundary

Now in Arles back in 1965, our notary public Raffray thinks he’s discovered the perfect setup for “en viager” transaction. He’s found a 90 year old woman named Jeanne Calment who has no heirs and a beautiful second floor apartment right in the middle of town. They strike a deal where he agrees to pay the elderly woman $2500 francs month — about $700 in today’s currency until her death. And then he’ll take over the apartment free and clear.

As he signs the papers in 1965, he has to be thinking to himself that he’s just struck gold with this transaction. Even if the woman goes on to live to a hundred, Raffray will get the keys to the apartment well before his own retirement age.

What he doesn’t realize is that he has just signed a contract with a woman who will go on to be the oldest human being that has ever lived.

Because you have a time frame in mind, it doesn’t seem like this kind of arrangement is suitable for your needs. There’s no guarantee you’d be able to take ownership when you wanted to live in it. It seems better for someone who’s already living in the region and could be very flexible about when they’d get to take it over.

One aspect of the deal that I’d consider relevant:

What are the provisions, if any, for the case when the owner (or all of the owners, if that applies) is/are still alive but is/are too frail to continue living there on their own, even with community nursing services, and have to move to assisted living/a care home?

That stage may last for a long time, given modern medicine.

Sounds like a decent premise for a film noir.

I wouldn’t touch it because, by the time I can finally move in (5/10/15 years, who knows), I may not want to live there anymore.

Switzerland has this as well, but the property is sometimes bought outright, without the rente viagère. All the pain of buying a place without getting to live in it or rent it out.

As a financial transaction it’s akin to the current owner taking out a reverse mortgage, but with the would-be buyer carrying that mortgage rather than some finance company.

For a professional finance company the significant risks inherent in any given transaction going south are lost in the sauce of the many transactions in their total portfolio. For an individual not so much. Hint: the elderly sellers in these deals are convinced they’re getting a good deal. The younger buyers are also convinced they’re getting a good deal. Even with no malfeasance, they can’t both turn out to be right in the end.

One of the key features of modern capitalism is the relentless march downwards of spreads due to the ability to group individual risks into a statistical risk pool. Said another way, these ancient financial arrangements aren’t per se bad. They’re just primitive and they carry “fees” in one form or another that are unnecessarily high given the modern alternatives available.

The e.g. 40% discount is waaay higher a vig than a plain old reverse mortgage would charge. That screws the elder or their estate. Likewise the time uncertainty to possession and the unlimited downside to the buyer if the seller lives “forever” screws them. Both of these are expensive risks that don’t need to be there to achieve a deal. At least not in 2024; the financial landscape was different in 1624.

Thanks, a few of my neurons and synapses are still connected.

Late add to the end of my post 2 posts up:

Said another way, modern capital finance does afford alternate means to the same end and with probably less risk and more reward for both parties. Assuming local law and tradition permit the OP and the counterparty to access those more modern products.

Sounds like it might be a form of what we in the US would call a “life estate with contingent remainder” which is subject to a condition precedent. The older person has a life estate, and the estate then passes to the payor on the holder of the life estate’s death, provided payments are current as of the holder’s passing.

Now, whether, as a cultural phenomenon, there is a market for such things in the US, I frankly don’t know. Give airbnb time and I wouldn’t be shocked if they create one. Or banks. I mean, conceptually, it strikes me as a close cousin to the reverse mortgage, except that it is between individuals rather than a bank and an individual. Or is it? Who pays out the annuity? A bank, or a private individual? If a bank, then it really does just seem like a reverse mortgage with extra steps.

The film My Old Lady starring Maggie Smith and Kevin Kline is about a viager. It’s not a great movie. I think the original idea came from Jeanne Calment’s story, but they added some melodramatic twists that make it less interesting than the truth.

I wouldn’t do a viager, just because I’ve been fascinated by Jeanne Calment ever since I first heard the story and would always be rooting for the original owner to live as long as possible.

Actually, I think they can because it’s not really looked at as a way to make money. The older person is interested in continuing to live there and getting a permanent income while the younger person is interested in getting the place at a discount. And the older person may not care about an estate - if I didn’t have children or grandchildren, I wouldn’t factor my estate into any decisions.

I have seen something similar in the US, where someone sells their house and retains a life estate. But it’s only similar for two reasons - first, there is a set price. The sale is not for monthly payments of $1000/month until the seller dies. It’s for $120K to be paid off in monthly payments of $1000 for ten years and if the seller dies before the ten years are up, the remaining payments must be made to the heirs. It’s more like a reverse mortgage than the French version. And the second difference is that I’ve only known of it within a family - I don’t think there’s any legal reason why it couldn’t involve non-family but I suspect there’s a trust issue.

Buying a house is usually the largest financial commitment of a person’s life.
Therefore I would be wary of any unusual purchase that might have a problem that endangers the whole transaction.

As I understand it, you will be committed to a monthly payment until the current owner passes.
The possibility of the owner living longer than expected has already been mentioned.
I will add:

  • you find a more desirable property, but can’t afford to do both payments
  • due to a unforeseen problem you run short of money
  • the owner’s family start a legal dispute (under French law, so you have to hire a suitable lawyer)
  • the property drops in value (e.g. due to a fire, non-payment of local taxes…)

Viager can be contested generally in case of conjoint’s lack of accord, or suspicion of hidden donation of the house, or lack of payment, or price too inappropriate.
Another risk is that the death of the vendor must be unforeseen. So if you happen to knew the vendor had some kind of hidden disease and you took advantage of this, the sell is voided.

If I’m 30 and the seller is 80 it sounds like a decent bet. But if I’m nearing retirement and the seller is 10-15 years older than I am, what’s to say my or my spouse’s health won’t take a turn for the worse while the owner stays healthy!

And who’s responsible for maintenance, property insurance, real estate taxes and those other ongoing expenses? In the U.S. with an owner-tenant relationship those are owner responsibilities. Will you continue to pay them for years before you actually take possession?

Finally, if you decide the deal no longer works for you, how do you get out of it? What protection does the tenant have that the new owner won’t kick them out, refuse to keep the place up or otherwise make life miserable for them?

Ultimately, it’s all about risk management. The old person who’s selling the property gets low-risk income for the rest of their life, in return for their estate ending up with less value (a good deal, if you don’t have any direct heirs you care about). The person buying the property probably gets the property much cheaper than they otherwise would (the expected value is high), but in return, they’re assuming more risk and uncertainty.

I would expect (unless there are some regulations prohibiting this) that there would be companies that specialize in this, buying up a very large number of properties in this way, and then as they take ownership, re-selling them in a more conventional way. By averaging out over many properties, they’d bring the risk back down, and just have the profit.

In the UK, there are equity release companies who will buy your home and allow you to remain living there for the rest of your life. The payment is, I believe, just a one off lump sum, probably significantly less than the market value of the house.
There are also properties on the market sold as ‘lifetime lease for over 50s’ - you pay maybe three quarters of the value of the house and you ‘own’ it until you die, then it reverts back to the company.
I think it’s probably the same companies doing both things - acquiring cheap property via equity release purchases and leasing them back out of lifetime lease.