And as a human I put myself as high up the hierarchy as you. So if you don’t like being near me and my dog you can go around. You are worried about what may or may potentially happen. How I’m I going to know what is in your head? You don’t like that a dog may potentially bark at you? Sounds like your problem. It’s up to you to keep yourself out of situations that bother you. I have enough to worry about in my own life to worry about your delicate sensibilities. If I had an aggressive dog or one I know was prone to being vicious then most of the responsibility rests with me. I will keep my dog from licking you or running away from you (or the car door, or the mailbox closing, or the rabbit) but if you expect every dog to walk robotically by pretending you don’t exist, tough shit. I’m allowed to walk here too. With my dog.
I really can’t believe people are saying it’s not their responsibility to train their dog so it doesn’t bother other people. If it “can’t be trained” (which I don’t believe, there are many different methods out there), then it’s the owner’s responsibility to keep it away from people. You made the choice to own it-it’s not my responsibility to cross the street because of your choice.
That’s what it comes down to,* taking responsibility.* There are a number of wonderful dog owners in this thread who do just that. I don’t know why it’s so difficult for others.
To re-iterate, I’m not a dog-hater, not in the least.
I think you missed “untrained” in the post to which you’re responding.
Right on. Unreal what some write here. Your dog, your responsibility. End of. And this comes from a former Doberman owner who’d never have to bother to pull on her leash or otherwise correct her barking/growling @ anyone – fixed of course, as any responsible owner should do.
It’s called “training” and I spent many, many hours at it – although Dobies are one of the easiest breeds to train.
One of the smartest dogs around.
Jacques Chitte we hardly knew ye.
Bolding mine. I think this is where a lot of the hostility and disagreement from the dog owners comes from. None of us know what dog behavior is going to bother you! Some people are afraid of a dog by its size or appearance alone. Some people fear German Shepherds, so even if Rin Tin Tin* himself came walking down the street, they’d be afraid. Is that the dog owner’s fault?**
One of my dogs barks up a storm when he walks. He’s just happy to be alive, but some people could find that aggressive and frightening. The other tugs half the walk until he tires out. I can’t break him of this. But he’s not aggressive, though he might look that way to some. After he tires, he walks with me like a champ. I use a Gentle Leader on him to help with his control, and people who don’t know what that is think I am muzzling him! So they are afraid of my dog that is so “uncontrollable” that he has to be “muzzled” in public. And because someone is scared of my dog due to their own ignorance, that is MY fault?
*One of his offspring-not Zombie Rinty. I’d be scared of that!
**Substitute Pit Bull for GSD, and there are many people on this board that would say “yes” to that. But is that the dog owner’s fault, too?
I think an issue may be how both sides perceive the discussion.
One side is thinking of snarly & lunging or slobbery & jumpy (but baby-waby is cyuute!).
And the other side seem to be responsible dog owners thinking that any tugging on a leash can be seen as hostile.
I don’t think responsible dog owners are the problem. And I haven’t read a post where someone says their dogs run wild sporting a rage boner so I’m assuming most here are good owners.
If a person is walking in an area where dogs are walked it helps to learn a little about mutts. People walking mutts remember people who don’t like dogs eventually. When I used to walk my Dads boxers there was a house that had kids that were afraid of them. If they were outside I’d cross the road, but this was easy since it was in a neighborhood.
Bad owner are bad…mmmmkay.
Apologies if I’m wrong.
That’s tenuous. There are plenty of people in this thread lower than dogs.
How is reality working out for you?
There will always be inconsiderate people to deal with.
People on cell phones when they shouldn’t be
People smoking where they shouldn’t be
People ignoring the obnoxious behavior of their dog/kid/friend/spouse
People firing guns and fireworks into the wee hours on holidays (yes, those frighten me when the grass is tinder dry and it’s windy and I have a house and farm full of animals)
Gotta learn to deal with the obnoxious in this world or you’ll go mad…
I guess you missed the part where I said
:rolleyes:
Because I realize reality doesn’t bend to my whim no matter what I believe. I will forever be the person crossing the street to avoid being jumped on by a slobbery untrained dog, not the other way around. Good try though.
Steel-toed boots are your friends. Not the dog’s friend, mind you, but they are your friend. No dog can bite through that.
I’m sure they’d be considerate of your demands if you would be nice enough to project them via esp. Most people don’t care what a leashed dog is doing, they manage to walk by without ever being affected. Should dog owners zig zag across the streets avoiding anybody the dog might bark at just so you aren’t burdened with hearing it’s yap?
You are among a minority of people that are concerned about a leashed animal barking in their direction. Suck it up or go live in the woods and not bother the rest of us. I think would be easier to deal with rabid wolves then dance around your delicate sensibilities.
Train your fuckin’ dog instead of posting so much crap on here. :rolleyes:
Have you met my dog? What further training do you think he needs?
I’ve passed by plenty of dogs that don’t jump frantically, lunge erratically, and bark constantly. In fact, I’ve passed by a lot of dogs that don’t even bark at passerby at all, or pretty much give two shits about a stranger on their walk!
Gosh, isn’t training wonderful?
If your dog is not strangling itself in an attempt to jump and slobber all over every person who comes within a 50 yard distance of it, *your dog is not the problem.
*
I mention barking incessantly and it becomes me complaining about a single bark from a dog walking around placidly. I mention lunging and jumping until they’re practically strangling themselves to death and it’s still “Oh a dog barked ONCE at you, what are you complaining about?! Go live on a mountain all alone!” Yeah, great comprehension you have there.
Yeah, I’ll be honest, I don’t like dogs. At least I can be indifferent to the trained ones. You people take that as an affront to your very sensibilities and blow what I say out of proportion because how dare I not give off a dog-loving vibe. Good old human nature I guess, happens every single time.
PS. Already anticipated all the “go live in the sticks you bah-humbug!” remarks and I’m tellin’ ya, it’s not a compelling argument when that’s not the argument in question. Don’t bother bringing it up.
I am satisfied with the training my dog has achieved.
In most jurisdictions, displaying a firearm in this manner (to intimidate either dog or owner) is considered brandishing and is generally frowned upon, use of deadly force is only authorized in situations where there is an ACTIVE threat I.E. a dog that has escaped the owner’s control
Simply growling and lunging, when restrained by a leash, is not sufficient cause for deadly force
Is it poor dog manners, poor dog control? Undoubtedly, but not a valid reason for a deadly force response
Based on your comments thus far, and as a gun owner myself, I don’t feel you are ready for firearm ownership yet, just my opinion
Dunno. You are the one saying he’s hard to control on leash.
So you tell us.
Yeah, the very first thing we do with our dogs is go with them to a dog-training class. It’s as much training the owner to be completely consistent with movements/commands/expectations… and rewarding with treats (lots of treats). So if you jog past our dogs, they’ll WANT to jump on you (c’mon, why else would you be running by? You want to play “Try To Catch Me!”, right?)…
But if my wife or I calmly say “Sit… no… let the jogger go by… good dog!”, then the dog will sit and watch you run past (from a distance that’ll cause you no anxiety whatsoever).
Yeah, it cost some time and some money, but we considered it part of the purchase price of getting a dog.
Congrats. You are simply doing it right.