Which is why I hate omnibus threads. They swallow everything, and unless you play along regularly, they’re inaccessible.
Bricker usually starts threads like this when his side wins and voters are suppressed
In the case of Federal elections, can not the Federal government set voter ID rules?
No, because in the US “Federal” elections (i.e., elections for members of Congress, Senators and members of the Electoral College) are run by the states.
It took a Constitutional Amendment to change the age of all Presidential voters to 18. The amendment didn’t apply to state elections, but the states didn’t want to try to deal with controlling the age at which Presidential, Congressional, and state electors could obtain a ballot, so they all just went with 18 at all elections.
Congress actually has the power to regulate congressional elections however it sees fit. It’s just not required to, and for the most part doesn’t.
I was going to link the starting post, but I actually suggest you just don’t read the Pit thread. There does not seem to be a post by Bricker explaining how it will affect the vote or even providing insight from a legal angle. He just repeatedly asserts that his legal opinion is right and argues about whether the laws are actually racist or disagreeing that disenfranchisement is always bad.
I do not see any posts that actually discuss the topic of this thread.
Well maybe.
The actual text is
What does “manner of holding elections” mean? No one really knows. When Congress passed a law requiring election by districts there was some talk that it was unconstitutional (BTW it was implicitly presumed Constitutional in Branch v. Smith) but it is questionable if “manner” could be extended to requiring ID, using electronic voting, etc. in congressional elections.
Hiw could “manner” possibly not include the idea of electronic voting? If that’s not a manner of voting then what is?
But is it a manner of holding an election?
Well it does appear to be “a way in which a thing is done”, so yes? I don’t know what I’m missing here.
The mechanisms of voting is not the same as holding an election.
The reason why the Constitution prohibits Congress from regulating “the places of choosing Senators” is because when it was originally written, the state legislatures chose Senators, and the Constitution didn’t want Congress controlling where the state legislatures would meet.
If you want to pick a fight with a poster who has not even posted to this thread, go open a thread in The BBQ Pit. Don’t drag your personal feuds into other discussions.
And, while I am aware that the OP mentioned Bricker, by name, (which was not really a cool move), that mere mention is not an opportunity or an excuse to jump in with insults.
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You usually do, eh?
So far as I can recall, in the seventeen years I have participated on this board I have started exactly one thread about a Voter ID decision, in 2012, concerning the Arizona case.
Can you refresh my recollection on all the other ones you’ve seen? On any of the others you’ve seen?
I don’t understand why it’s questionable. If Congress can’t do it, then neither can the states. If the states can enact ID laws that apply to congressional elections, then so can Congress, because the states’ powers to regulate Congressional elections come from the exact same place in the Constitution.
In fairness, the perception that you have started a lot of threads is about as valid as the perception that voter fraud is a thing.
Not exactly ID related but the attempt to eliminate straight-ticket voting in Michigan has hit the judicial wall.
I just meant about high profile court cases. I can’t be arsed to search so instead I hereby rescind my recollection.
Well, sure, but Doper confidence is a valued neural juxtaposition! And even if in-person voter fraud is a chimera riding a unicorn, the perception is real, and demands drastic and immediate action! The Dems should be willing to “take one for the team”, even if what they take is an arrow in the knee for the other team! Stern duty demands sacrifice!
Does anyone really doubt that the Republicans would do that, would make that sacrifice, when Brownish-Americans start voting Republican? OK, you doubt it, that makes one!
(I know Bryan claims to be Canadian, but has anyone seen him apologize for it?)