That cite in no way backs up your false assertion that "You do realize also in places like San Francisco (maybe even all of California I’m not sure) they allow illegal immigrants to vote. "
In CA, almost everyone votes by mail. In CA, you have to be registered to vote, and you have to swear you are a citizen.
Indeed, a undocumented alien could vote. He could also rob a bank. Why on earth would a undocumented alien risk prison and extradition to vote? undocumented aliens tend to avoid doing things that gets them the attention of Law Enforcement and federal officials.
Especially as in CA, the presidential vote is for-ordained. It is deep, dark blue.
Republicans have been pushing Voter ID laws for 20 years, and they’re only NOW starting to research it?
Here’s the deal with finding voter fraud. There is a different level of scrutiny when you’re trying to figure out if a crime happened, than if you’re trying to prove a particular person did it.
Let’s say you’re researching stolen bicycles. It’s trivially easy to get data on whether or not bicycles have been stolen, it is much harder to say that John Doe stole Bicycle X on Day Y. So too with in person voter fraud.
It is trivially easy to determine if someone voted as John Doe when they were not really John Doe.
Step 1 - Ask John Doe if he voted.
Wait, that’s it. There is no Step 2. Congratulations, you’ve successfully determined if someone pretended to be John Doe when they walked into the polling location and signed on John Doe’s space in the book.
The fact that you don’t know how many people have done this is a joke.
Your missing the point. They dont have to say they are “John Doe”. An illegal can register under there own name in California. Yes, I get it that technically, it’s against the law. Yes, they have to swear they are a legal citizen but cant people lie? And yes, technically, a poll worker MIGHT ask to see an ID. Which they should have since California gives illegals drivers licenses and other ID cards. However you guys keep pointing out that asking for ID is discrimination right so I doubt a democrat poll worker would do it.
You dont actually think if they were caught that a California DA would actually prosecute them do you? So what do they have to lose?
And why vote? Maybe a local California candidate has promised they would not deport illegals? They would give illegals amnesty. As I said above the New Way Forward act promises not to deport illegals even if they commit crimes.
You do know that it’s a Federal crime to false claim to be a US citizen to vote? So it doesn’t matter if a California D.A. doesn’t prosecute; William Barr’s Justice Department can do so.
You dont need ID. You register (when you do show ID and residence). Then they send you a ballot. if you choose to vote in person, you come in, show the poll worker your Ballot, he checks off the address, you thien sign and your signature is compared.
Much more secure that showing a ID, something you can buy for $50 on the black market.
Yes, some cities allow them to vote in local elections ONLY. That is perfectly legal. In some Northern States they allowed free blacks and women to vote in local elections before the Civil war, etc. Perfectly legal.
You cant 'just vote". You have to have registered, and bring in a copy of the ballot they mailed you. (If you forget it, then they do ask for ID, to check off your address). They compare vs their list, and then you sign- they compare that vs your signature on file. Then they check you off as having voted.
Even if you have a fake ID, it doesnt help, as you cant vote unless you are registered.
Any city of any state may allow illegals or even those under 18 to vote.
## California did pass a law intended to increase voter turnout, but the state has not made it legal for undocumented residents to vote.
Q: Is California registering noncitizens to vote?
A: No. A state motor-voter program and a San Francisco school board measure have fueled that false claim.
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… But that text — the same that appeared in a July tweet by the chairman of a national group called Students for Trump — is rooted in false and misleading information. California is not registering noncitizens to vote, save for one city allowing certain illegal immigrants to vote only in school board elections.
So urbanredneck2 you seem alarmed at the fact that illegals can vote in a small school board election in SF.
OK, before the passages of the 15th and 19th amendments, several new England states and northern cities gave women and free blacks the right to vote in local elections. Was that wrong?
I don’t know why you say that. I’m to the left of Joe Biden. If I were POTUS or AG, I would have no problem prosecuting people for voting fraud. I support prosecution of such people now. I acknowledge, however, it’s exceedingly rare. (But I might make an exception for a spouse who voted their dead spouse’s ballot if said spouse died right before the election. I’m a softy sometimes)
So what you’re saying is, that the argument you and the president and all those republicansw are making about this election being at risk of rampant voter fraud is a complete load of festering bullshit.
again-OK, before the passages of the 15th and 19th amendments, several new England states and northern cities gave women and free blacks the right to vote in local elections. Was that wrong?
Not exactly. It’s voter suppression though. Nonetheless, if someone voted illegally and used a fake ID in violation of state or federal law, they should be prosecuted.
Isnt all this part of the democrats push to end what you call voter discrimination?
no.
How many democrats are pushing for allowing illegals to vote in ALL elections?