I couldn’t watch the whole thing because I wanted to punch Pence in the mouth. But I agree with Rushgeekgirl, I like her better than I did before.
And I fucking hate Pence even more, god help me.
Fan-fucking-tastic! Way to go Debate Commission!
Lol:
Exactly. This is her introduction to a lot of Americans. Both she and Biden have been painted as wild eyed radicals by the administration. They both have projected being “the adult in the room.”
Can I just point out that everyone’s talking about Pence’s pink eye and the fly on his head? Everyone’s critiquing a candidate’s appearance and for once it’s not the woman.
That suits me just fine! If trump needs an excuse to cancel, so be it!
I hope Biden and the commission stand their ground on this. Refusing to debate may be regarded by his most loyal supporters as alpha male posturing, but I think the the best-case optics for the majority of voters is that he looks kind of whiny and petulant.
In other words, she’s a woman. Jesus.
You have a fly on your head.
This is so good.
I suppose you can look at it that way - I certainly acknowledge that sexism is a thing and pointed that out multiple times in the Hillary Clinton redux threads. I think some women can pull off what Harris was trying to without sounding the way she did.
I’m just trying to call balls and strikes as I see the strike zone. But it’s entirely possible that, as progressive as I claim to be, my inner Archie Bunker just popped out. My apologies if that’s the case.
Agreed.
What Trump hates more than anything is losing his ability to control the debate. I’m glad the Commission asserted itself and showed a spine for once.
The internet is a funny thing. Who knew, upon waking up this morning, that I would be making Scottie Pippen cracks all over Twitter.
I remember that game. The WTF look on Phil Jackson’s face.
Sorry for the thread jack - carry on.
I agree with you. I didn’t like her til I heard her tonight. Now I totally support her.
So can some men. <ThelmaLou peers at asahi over the top of her glasses>
Not very enlightening…
When I arrive at our meeting point, the fly of the hour is already reclining on an orange peel, rubbing its front legs together in a pensive manner. The fly looks relaxed, but its compound eyes sparkle. Unlike most celebrities, it is a little bit larger in person, though its features are delicate. It’s easy to see why so many eyes were drawn to it during the vice-presidential debate. Its dainty, gossamer-thin wings look touchable. It doesn’t seem a day over a day, but, in fact, it’s a little over that. I won’t specify how close it is toward the end of its 28-day lifespan — a lady never tells!
The following conversation has been edited and condensed for clarity.
So, you’re the fly from the vice-presidential debate.
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You were on Mike Pence’s head. From what I can gather of your age, you spent — that’s — that’s like if I were to spend a month on Mike Pence’s head. Maybe even longer. How long were those minutes for you?
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I’m trying to imagine what it must have felt like to spend the fraction of your life that you have spent listening to Mike Pence claim that justice was served for Breonna Taylor and insisting that it was “not true” that the president had failed to condemn white supremacists. I can’t imagine it. I guess that’s not really a question.
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The White House reportedly has a big fly problem. Is that where you hail from?
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I’m sorry, I have to ask. I know that Reince Priebus spent a lot of his time in the —
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— White House swatting flies on the president’s orders, so I know the vice president has difficulty —
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Did you think Susan Page was an effective —
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Touche, ThelmaLou. Touche.
Point taken.
In an effort to add something truly useful to this thread, I gotta observe that anyone who hasn’t listened to this album sure oughta. As well as their other collaborations. Great stuff!
Back to your previously scheduled discussion…
Just a couple of observations.
-I don’t know why they do not enforce time limits more strictly. Anyone who has competed in HS or college debate knows there are time limits. In appellate court arguments, there are different colored lights: yellow when time is running out, and red when it is out. The court has the discretion of allowing you to finish your sentence, or the can just cut you off with a “Thank you counselor.” Or, they can choose to ignore the time limits and ask additional questions. Not saying these debates should be as strictly handled, but these practices aren’t hard to grasp, implement, or enforce.
Debate is a tad more challenging that watching it at home. I guarantee that most participants think up countless witty rejoinders the second they stopped speaking - which is one reason the often circle back to the previous question in their next response. They have so much going around in their head.
-First, they have the preplanned soundbites that have been drilled into them in prep. That is why they jam in a “guns” response to an early “healthcare” question (or somesuch.) They don’t want to miss the opportunity to land that line.
-Then they want to respond to what the other person said and land zingers.
-A distant third - if even that high - is listening to the moderator
Just saying, when you see someone who is REALLY witty and responsive, realize that they are exceptionally gifted. Kamala was plenty good, but not amazing. And, I think she accomplished her main goal of not doing anything blatant to turn off anyone who might have been undecided or vacillating. Pence went in there intending just to spout the party line despite whatever was asked - same as he did 4 years ago. He did that quite well. I found it repulsive - we’ll see how many people agree.
I think the fly was a godsend. It will dominate the subsequent discussion, and open the administration to mockery.
Attracted to the rotting corpse that is the Trump re-election campaign?
I kept expecting Pence’s lizard-tongue to come out and scoop the fly into his mouth.
Like goddammit. Like.
She couldn’t afford to be TOO smart or, God forbid, brilliant. That would probably have turned off even Democrats. People who suggested she should come out and clobber Pence were waaaay off base. That would have backfired bigly.
I smell a meme being composed somewhere… 