Thanks for the well wishes everyone. I decided to take tomororw off so I can dive into a tailspin in peace. Breaking up with the fiance and moving out last week and finding a lovely new apartment (with an accent wall!) has also been a nice distraction.
Off to court now for a day off “this may very well be the last time…”
Hey, one last thing. Use a sheet of paper or a ruler on the computer screen. Locate your bar number, align the edge of the paper or ruler appropriately, and only then look over at the pass/fail. The people above and below me flunked and I almost had a heart attack because my finger skipped a line.
They do it differently in CA. You log in with your special bar number and special bar passcode (I forget what all), and you get a screen that’s all about you. CA also doesn’t post a list of who failed; they only post a list of people who passed, so if you’re not on the list, there you go.
Which is why I freaked out – I checked my screen, and I thought I passed, and then my friend logged in to see if she passed, and she did, but then I thought that her screen looked different from my screen, so maybe I hadn’t read it correctly. So I logged back into my screen and this time I read it (instead of just looking for the telltale words “you” and “passed”).
In the olden days, I’m told, bar results were posted in the window of the Daily Journal office downtown. So on the day in question, people would walk over to the DJ office and look over the lists for their name. So much better to find out if you passed or failed in the privacy of your own home.
ETA: Curse you and your fast typing, lezlers!
I’m sure you did fine, but I’ll keep my fingers crossed for you.
Best of luck, Lezlers - I remember how shitty the wait for VA was. Then again, you never had to learn what a motion craving oyer was…
And I had the joy of getting home to find the confirmation letter (the next day) was sitting waiting there. I opened it up, only ti find that my character and fitness report was not yet complete (damn British universities being solow getting stuff over), so I was in limbo for a while.
Whatever happens, remember it isn’t the end of the world. Some of the best practicing lawyers I know didn’t pass the first time. Not that it seems that is likely to happen here
I passed my bar exams back in the old days. Letters and all, yanno. First bar exam, I came home and my wife had opened the letter. I was glad I passed.
I studied for my second bar exam while working full time as a new associate. I don’t recommend it. The guys at the office thought it would be funny to prank me by sending me a phony letter from the multistate bar exam folks claiming that I had a perfect score and they needed to meet with me about it because they didn’t think it was possible. It actually was pretty funny. And I did blow the multistate away. My score was better than any of those obtained by the folks used by the review course as testimonials.
At the time Michigan didn’t score your essays if you got a high enough multistate score. The letter from the Michigan bar folks said, “you got X on the multistate. You passed. Congratulations.” This was quite a relief because I knew I’d screwed up a few of the essays. My favorite essay screw up was evidence. The question involved judicial notice. And I was pretty good at that topic. As I was writing the essay, thought I’d blown it away. Later I realized I’d missed the key sentence: Plaintiff appeals. It wasn’t a question about run-of-the-mill judicial notice–it was about judicial notice on appeal. That’s a bit different. I hadn’t even mentioned this complication in my answer.
My father has a bar exam results horror story. Back in his day, you could request, and pay for, the bar examiners to send a telegram announcing your results. He did. He passed. A guy with a nearly identical name had done the same, and flunked. The telegrams got switched.
That’s how they do it in Texas, too. You’ll get a letter within a day or two with your actual score, but the first place results are released is the online List, the List of “Examinees Who Passed the [July/February] 200[?] Texas Bar Examination”. It’s in alphabetical order by last name.
Those were probably the queasiest few moments of my life, scrolling down to where my name ought to be. Fortunately, my name was on the list. Wish I could say something to make the wait easier on you, but knowing what the wait is like, I know that I can’t. I’ll just say, “I’ve been there, I understand, and it does indeed suck, but it’ll be over soon.”
When they posted the bar results for my test, they accidentally posted the results for last year and it stayed up for a few minutes. Accordingly, every single person in Texas didn’t see their name thought they failed for a minute or so.
You may laugh, but I have actually used a motion craving oyer three times in the last three years. I have also learned that you can make a profert as your response to one.
For my bar results, I misremembered my number and thought I had failed for a day. When I came home the next day after being a funk, I found that I had passed. I went out that night and got rather tanked at a few bars.
Man, Texas is brutal, they put your name up. In Florida you get a number, and then a list of those numbers does online with pass/fail. If you want to know what happened to so-and-so, you have to wait for the gossip hounds to inform you as to who passed and who didn’t.
By the way, unless they’ve changed it (and, being sadistic bastards, why would they) the random user name and random password are in a different order on the website than on the little piece of paper you type from. And if you put the name and password into the wrong fields it doesn’t do anything except say “This name does not appear on the list of people who have successfully completed the California State Bar examination.”
A friend had a horrible experience a few years ago because of that tricky little problem. But for you, forewarned is forearmed! Good luck.
less than 50% pass, I think. It’s pretty brutal. I’m busying myself by figuring out how many and types of drinks I can consume to maximize my drunkedness before I start puking.
Yikes! That’s horrid. It seems to me to be a real pity that folks who work so hard for so many years, and who know enough to hold down a job as a student at law, have to face this obstacle.
I realize that there have to be very high standards, but I prefer the high hurdle to be at the admissions end of law school rather than at the admissions end of the bar. (When I went through in Ontario, the hard part was getting into law school. Passing law school was no big deal, and passing the bar was no big deal. Just do the work and you would get through.) Or to put it another way, after several years of law school and some further articling/apprenticing, one would hope that one would have learned enough to be a lawyer.
I can see why you would be stressed, for a 50% flunk rate suggests that the exam results would not reasonably reflect the students’ knowledge and abilities, and instead would be somewhat arbitrary.