Even if it wasn’t murder, something suspicious sure happened here.
Is this one of those cases where “suspicious” means something different in Canadian jurisprudence than in colloquial American?
Arranged marriage is still common in Sikh Society.
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That would be stressful for any Canadian or American teen girl. They’re living and going to school in a modern world, but life at home is different.
Only the family know the situation at home. They have a right to privacy.
It occurs to me that “no further updates out of respect for the family” sure seems like it points to suicide. Any other situation (murder, passed out due to fumes from cleaning, whatever) would result in the family wanting the details made public.
Is that something that was brought up as a possible reason for her death?
That’s what I’m still guessing. If a crime was committed, the police would either be looking for someone or they’d have charged someone. They wouldn’t go on the news and say exactly the opposite, unless you (@Seanette) think the police covered it up.
I’m very suspicious that someone is covering up something, given how much has been published about the safeguards on those ovens and how unlikely it is there’d be room for someone to shove a rack in there and not notice hitting a human, among other things.
Self-Harm has been brought up several times. It hasn’t been completely established.
But investigators have dismissed other options like equipment malfunction or criminal activity.
At this point what actually happened will never be reported.
I suspect that aceplace is speculating. The young woman was Sikh, and she and her mother immigrated to Canada from India two or three years ago.
Speculation is all that is left.
I am relieved homicide has been ruled out by the investigation.
Then, it might be useful, when you make posts like that, to actually say something like, “I’m speculating here…” Otherwise, it can sound like you’re posting based on something solid that you have read or heard.
I thought it was obvious
I’ll say so in the future.
A retired police detective I know once commented over cocktails that after a mysterious death you always start out suspecting all the family & close friends. Only when they’re eliminated do you movd on to strangers.
Obvious examples of street crime are an exception to that general rule. This ain’t that.
As to suicide by painful means, often folks are either clueless or unrealistically optimistic about passing out before it gets bad. They learn otherwise too late to correct the situation.
Whatever happened it was a damned shame.
But who do you think is covering something up and what do you think is being covered up? Do you think it’s a murder or suicide that’s being covered up?
It hasn’t been established to us, the family likely knows what that cause of death was, or at least how she ended up there.
It’s certainly ‘reported’, just not via press release. If someone really wanted to, an FOIA request may reveal more.
But speculating that she was trying to escape an arranged marriage seems completely out of left field, at least barring something more than being Sikh.
Or a possible drug overdose that impaired her ability to operate the oven safely might be something the family didn’t want widely publicized.
I had a thought that she may have heard of the trope of committing suicide by putting your head in a (gas) oven, and misunderstood it.
Go big or go home.
Not necessarily. There have been many product recalls because the product is defective or dangerous, whether that’s an automobile or a baby product like a bouncy seat. IF it was a design defect that there could be civil liability but not necessarily criminal liability. it’s also possible that the employee didn’t follow procedure & this happened.
Yes, but that doesn’t mean they are being monitored real-time. But the feed from the cameras is fed to home office, not just recorded locally.
Yes, the back rooms have cameras. I’m not certain about the bakery. But employee theft is a big concern, so I suspect there’s at least one.
Foul play has been eliminated, as well as malfunction. An improperly functioning latch by design deficiency would still be a safety failure, and be reported.
The comment about family privacy tells me it was some form of suicide, perhaps drug aided. There may have been some symbolic point for using the oven, or it might just have been what she could think of and have access to. Without a note, that may never be known even to the police or family.
It’s tragic and saddening. A few years ago, one of my coworkers committed suicide. At least she didn’t do it in the store. I still think about her, and wish I had known more at the time about things in her life I learned later.