Warlords of Draenor: WoW General Discussion thread 10/13/2014

Tonight I got an epic follower Croman along with the achievement that goes with him. I had no idea this existed, but when I zoned in to Bloodmaul Slag Mines (heroic) on a LFG run, our tank told us about it. Relatively easy to do–we cleared up to the boss with all the fire elementals–killed everything, but were careful to NOT aggro the boss, then we backtracked to kill the Slave Master boss–after which, Croman appeared chained to a wheel back to the right of that boss. Clicked on him and he joins the party, sorta. We were told the healer had to be sure to keep him alive. Then went back to kill the boss near the elementals, and Croman “found” his sword. After that, we proceeded as normal, and after killing the last boss, we had to wait just a little while before there was a quest marker on him…accept the quest and get him as a follower. Sweet!

Y’all know you don’t have to carry a pole anymore, right? Just hit you fishing button to cast, and you’ll be “equipped” with a stick with a line attached to it. As long as you don’t actually have your line in the water, you’ll revert to holding your weapon (which never leaves its equipment slot).

Granted, the stick doesn’t give you any +Fishing bonus (which you don’t need for pools anyway), and I just discovered last night that there’s some fancy new bait (“Ulitmate Worm”, or something like that) that won’t work with the stick, but it does solve the problem of going into battle with a pole equipped.

Bummer of the day: I picked up Admiral Taylor’s Greatsword from a quest, and, dammit, it can’t be used for transmog.

You might not need a pole just to fish, but in WoD fishing skill matters, if you want to ensure that you only catch enormous fish(what kind of fisherperson would settle for less?) you need to have at least 950 skill.

Ah, that would explain that worm granting +200!

I watched my son, a PvP god as a rogue, beat a shadow priest to death with a fishing pole. That’s amazing, since none of a rogue’s special attacks work with a fishing pole.

It was all an unfortunate accident; I have to think the priest couldn’t possibly have meant to pick a fight with a rogue in full PvP gear (back in the day, at the Knight-Lieutenant rank level). Maybe it was a moment of foolish opportunism.

It was pretty epic.

Of course, there are practical limitations. I do my fishing in my garrison, and to get “Enormous” fish you have to have a level 3 fishing hut.

I get by OK with a level 2 hut and normal-size fish. I’ll upgrade to L3 someday, mostly to be worthy of Nat Pagle, but for now I have higher priorities for my garrison resources (L3 barracks, replacing my lumber mill with a tavern so I can recruit a leatherworking helper, then replacing the tavern with the lumber mill again once I’ve exhausted the potential of the tavern).

Hey, anyone else ever do the achievement Did Someone Order a Knuckle Sandwich? where you had to level your unarmed attacks (back when that was a thing) to 400?

I spent part of it running around Azeroth in a Tauren bikini punching things to death. I don’t know why I’ve been thinking of it lately, except it’s another grossly inefficient way to kill things. I really had fun with that.

Yeah. It was a point of misplaced pride for my hunter main to be max proficiency in every weapon class a hunter could use. “It’s a hunter weapon” isn’t just a n00b cry, it’s a creed. :smiley:

There was a bug in the Zalazane’s Fall event just before Cataclysm. The final boss could be induced to bug out, becoming inert but still attackable, for as long as anyone was engaged with it. The perfect opportunity to whip out your vendor-bought white-quality weapon and start auto-attacking. (Or start pummeling with your fists.)

This was before target dummies.

Ha! I did that one with my holy priest, back in Lich King days (or was it before? When did that attack skill thing get removed?) But I did used to keep my skills up for all the available weapon types, just out of sheer boredom, mostly. I can’t remember what all was available for my priest, but my rogue, I remember, could level up bows, crossbows, maces, swords, daggers, thrown weapons, guns, all kinds of stuff. Of course most of those items made no sense at all, and most rogues would dual-wield daggers, swords, or fist weapons, same as now.

It did come in slightly handy during fights where you would be disarmed, at least you could still hit them for a LITTLE bit if you had the unarmed skill.

So my issue this week has been that I just can’t seem to get my iLvl high enough to do the raid. Been stuck at 631 for ages now. I don’t understand how people are all ready to hit the raids so quickly! I’ve got the 640 helm from Molten Core, and the 640 ring from the legendary questline. I’ve got 4 pieces of Warforged 636 level gear from doing Heroics, and everything else is 630 from Heroics, except my belt, which is my weakest item at 600.

I’m working on making a crafted cloak (It’ll be a 640, replacing a 630) so that won’t help very much. That’ll be several days or a week at the rate I’m getting the materials. I’m working on getting those 5000 apexis crystals to continue upgrading my ring, but I’m several days or a week away from that. I do not care for the daily quests, find them grindy and boring, but need the 800 crystals so I grit my teeth and do them anyway.

That pretty much just leaves either buying a crafted item from someone, which I don’t have the gold for, or continuing to hit the Heroics in hope of getting more Warforged stuff, which is so minimal an improvement that I’d need basically EVERY item to be Warforged before I could raid.

I have heard that the world bosses drop ~660 gear but I haven’t yet been able to get in on one of those fights.

I just hit 100 this morning and upgraded my garrison to Tier 3. That gave me another plot of each size, so I went ahead an built an inn to go along with my lumber mill.

Yup, did that on my human paladin. I also did the “run around in a bikini punching things” while doing low-level quests to get Loremaster, pre-Cata.

Newb questions from a 10-year vet:

For lack of a lot of choice, I have the Lunarfall Inn. I see I can get dungeon missions.

  1. are these tuned to be soloable (they say level 100), or am I expected to join a group for these? If I have to group up, it hardly seems worth the trouble.

  2. short of hoofing it all the way, is there a quick/convenient way to get to the target dungeon? Again, if I have to spend 15 minutes porting/flying/riding to various points just to start, the mission rewards don’t seem worth it.

Obviously, I rarely run dungeons/raids, and haven’t done so in a couple of years. And I’m old.

  1. No. The dungeon missions generally involve either clicking on some glowing object deep inside the dungeon or looting something from a Boss. I suppose a stealthed toon could try to sneak all the way to a clickable object, but it would be a slow and risky gambit.

  2. You can get teleported to the dungeon via the LFG queue, but if you are going solo, I think hoofing it is the only option.

Thanks, Oakminster. It sounds like, for a guy like me that doesn’t normally group/dungeon, the Lunarfall Inn is largely useless (except for the ability to specify follower traits you want, when upgraded).

I have the Inn on my main, and found it useful for getting extra gear while leveling. At 100, the rewards are more diverse…got a couple of toys and such. I think there are supposed to be better rewards at level 3, but I’m not there yet.

I did not get the Inn on my tankadin. He gets insta-queues as a tank, so no real need for extra incentives to do dungeon runs.

Probably not going to get it on my Boomkin, either–just want to try out different things on each toon. Might let him get the stable to see some extra mounts…

Oakminster, are you in the Burning Dog Legion?

Sorta-kinda but not really. My main and most played alts (including all of my Level 90+ toons) are Alliance. Think I’ve got at least two toons in the guild, but neither has been logged in for several years now. One of them is a lowbie druid named Oakhorn (I think), and the other one might be a DK whose name I’ve forgotten. If BDL does purges of inactive toons, all of mine may have ben purged by now.

Eventually, I plan to use the free-boost-to-90 thingy to make a Horde toon of some type and join BDL with him. Thinking maybe a warrior–I’ve never played that class beyond the low teen-levels. Or maybe a Shammy–got one of those to 25, but found leveling him to be tedious.

Nope, no purges that I’ve been aware of since I’ve been a BDL member (since December 2008 Or January 2009). The Guild Leader position sort of devolved to me a few months into MoP, when I ended up being the only member still logging in regularly, and I haven’t booted anybody. But my toon there with the GL title (my tauren paladin, Donoma) hasn’t played yet in WoD. I’ve been playing my orc rogue, Dugramm. We have a couple other players who are fairly active at the moment, but I can’t recall their character names or SDMB handles off the top of my head.

True. But there are always a few treasures in Gorgrond that won’t be easily accessible whichever way you choose, outpost-building wise.

If you choose a lumber camp, your shredder will not be able to clear rockpiles (“Odd Boulders”) covering assorted vignette treasures (usually garrison resources). Only Beatface the Ogre, one of the gladiators at the Sparring Ring, will do that, and does that when you interact with the odd boulder. (Teleports in, whacks the rock with his big ol’ hammer, and disappears. He’s a gladiator, he’s a warrior… he’s a mage? :confused:)

Likewise, there is at least one vignette treasure (a Mysterious Petrified Pod) that can’t be looted without using a lumber camp shredder to break through hardened thornvines. Also, getting up on top of a mesa to fight Charl Doomwing is pretty much impossible without the shredder’s rocket jump, and he generally won’t fly down to ground level if you agro him from the valley floor… instant evade reset. Frustrating for a completionist. :mad:

They opened up LFR on the first wing of Highmaul today.

They opened it, I hopped in line, and 30 seconds later was grouped. The last boss went down about 13-14 minutes later. No deaths, no close calls. Just tank & spank and wham, bam, done.

Very anticlimactic.

I got one item, a iLvl 646 Warforged pair of boots.

Well, it is LFR, and Kargath and the Butcher are indeed mostly tank&spank, if you want some kind of actual challenge you need to go for Normal/HC, not that any boss except maybe Imperator(who took us 9 tries on Normal and 26 on Heroic) is really what I would consider hard.