Cite?
IMO she ran a pretty damn good campaign in the circustances. Namely being thrown into the race for the presidency a few weeks out.
Sorry, I had almost all of this written up on 2-17-2026, I had a work emergency that had to be taken care of, so I didn’t end up finishing this until the morning of 2-18 and of course, by then, most of this same conversation ended up happening in the Frontrunners thread. It was just bad luck.
And Hillary also lost against Trump. Guess what she and Kamala had in common?
It wasn’t about inflation, it was about her race and especially gender. A woman looked like she might become President, and so the majority of American voters made a point of appointing a proud “pussy grabber” and rapist to collectively punish them for daring to consider themselves people. They wanted to make it crystal clear that women in America would never be treated as equals, and to make sure as many women as possible suffered as much as possible.
Above all else, America has always been a nation built on hate.
Sometimes I think we are too eager on this board to Gotcha someone. We are talking about the 2020 election where she dropped out in 2019 and not the 2024 election.
Don’t worry, we all make simple mistakes like this.
What does a “non-thin” CV look like and who has had such a CV that showed having all that experience was worthwhile?
Biden leaps to mind. Tons of experience and it didn’t translate into being a particularly good president.
I am tired of this or that person saying they are the one with all the experience…they should get the job. Rarely does that translate into performance as a president.
I think the presidency needs something else than being able to say you were in congress for 40 years.
What did Franklin Roosevelt’s CV look like? Abraham Lincoln? George Washington? Did their resume meet your standards?
If Trump has shown anything, it’s that voters elect based off of vibes, not resumes. You can have a 10-inch thick resume and still lose to a person with no experience if that person vibes with voters better than you. So all the talk about Kamala and Hillary’s experience is really off the mark with about 40% of the electorate.
Trump’s CV was so thin insert punchline here.
I thought the majority of American voters went with Hillary Clinton.
To be honest, this is the biggest reason why I didn’t make this another OP about whether America is capable of electing a woman or minority president. I already know what most posters are going to say on that topic and personally, to me if feels like those discussions have devolved into emotional arguments instead of logical. Besides, it feels like this board has already debated that issue to death.
Note, I am not trying to attack you, I am just hoping to get more insight into what other posters think of Kamala as a presidential candidate and through that decide for myself how much that means a Woman is a viable candidate in 2028.
I know this particular issue is one dear to you, so I am trying to kindly ask if we can not turn this into another America is evil debate.
To be honest, that is the other half of what I am trying to decide for myself. I am sincerely hoping that Trump is a one of once in a generation mistake that can’t be replicated. That future candidates’ CVs do matter, and they do have to behave in a normal manner. With only a sample size of one, it is hard to know where this is going.
Trump is not the first one.
George W. Bush’s resume was governor of Texas for four years. There really is nothing else to point at. Trump’s is worse, to be sure but still…lousy resumes don’t seem to matter to many Americans.
And I have yet to see proof of a really good one that proves a “good” resume (whatever that is) makes for a president that makes the country better overall.
Not really, Many candidates put “their hat in the ring” even if they know they cant win. In this case, Harris’s plan worked, she got picked for Veep.
https://www.ppic.org/publication/california-voter-and-party-profiles/
The share of registered voters who are Democrats (45.3%) has decreased slightly since 2021 (46.2%), the year before the last gubernatorial election. The share who are Republicans (25.2%) has seen a small uptick (24.1% in 2021).
- About two in ten voters (22.3%) are independents (also known as “decline to state” or “no party preference” voters); this share has declined somewhat since 2021 (23.7%). Meanwhile, the share registering with a minor political party has increased from 6.0% in 2021 to 7.2% today.*
0nly 45% of the state is registered voters.
Political experts think she was running for Veep. Or running for President next election. Politicians this for many reasons- auditioning for other roles, building name recognition, driving a certain policy, etc.
Even those who don’t nab a presidential nomination can benefit from national visibility and financial backing from donors.
“It’s a way of cultivating a donor base of support, as well as support at the polls,” Panagopoulos said. Putting one’s name out there for the highest office in the country can put them into consideration for high positions in the private sector.
“There are corporations who like to put these people on boards of directors, and there are universities who look for presidents and other administrators,” Belt said. “If you can run for president and show that you can raise a good deal of money, then there’s a lot of people out there who want you to work for them.”
Governor of NY, asst Secy of the Navy, and NY State Senate.
You are correct.
trump is a Right Wing Populist, like Boris Johnson, Orban, Modi, Milei, and others. There will be more. The difference is that those politicians are all sane,
Is that a thick enough resume?
George H.W. Bush was:
Vice President for eight years, Director of the CIA, Chief of the U.S. Liaison Office to the People’s Republic of China, Chair of the Republican National Committee, United States Ambassador to the United Nations, Member of the U.S. House of Representatives.
A sufficient set of qualifications should have been:
a) I’m legally eligible for the job
b) I’m not Donald Trump
even David Duke would have been preferable.
She didn’t fail. The voters did. You have to be as dumb as a sack of hammers to think that the president has squat shit to do with inflation, unless he does something massively stupid like randomly imposing huge tariffs without having a fucking clue as to how they work or who pays them.
Her resume is fine, she’s bright and has experience of being something other than a television personality with a history of racism and of ripping people off. But when you have an electorate who thinks of the president as some father figure who can shield us from all economic anxiety, you get the most evil person the nation has ever produced elected- twice. Whatever happens to the US, we fucking deserve it.
OK, but unfortunately, the voters hold the power. If they are dumb as a sack of hammers, then Democrats need to come up with some approach that can win the votes of people who are dumb as a sack of hammers. You have to cater your product to the customer, not the other way around.
This thread isn’t about how good a president anyone was or might be. It is about how good a candidate a specific person was. Her credentials did not seem to impress anyone. That wasn’t her biggest shortcoming as a candidate, but it was still telling. As for Biden, he must have been at least an adequate candidate, since he won.
Ok, if the measure for this thread is ONLY “can a person get elected” then it is abundantly clear that the candidate’s resume/credentials has absolutely nothing to do with it.
See: President Trump or George W. Bush (for starters).
You can read, I guess. I mean, the thread title is right there at the top of the screen.
Harris had some positive qualities, and I was hoping they would carry her through. She also had some important strikes against her, including her experience. If everything else had gone well, it wouldn’t have mattered, or not much. But they didn’t, and it did.
Pot, meet kettle.
Please compare and contrast Harris’ experience versus Trump’s experience.
More broadly, show where “experience” is the thing that gets people elected to be president.