Was the gold making aspect of alchemy a hoax?

I know alchemists did other things like fool around with medicine and the like, but you always hear that their main activity was trying to make gold out of lead and other materials.

Did they really think they could do this, or was this a ruse to get a nice research grant from the wealthy in order to pursue other projects? If not a hoax, did alchemists believe that their contemporaries were successful in this pursuit and that they themselves just weren’t very good alchemists?

You would think they would throw in the towel after centuries without making a single gram of gold. I can picture their convention: “Hey Bill, you make any gold this year? No? Yeah me neither. Tough line of work, huh. Want to hit the buffet?”

So what’s the straight dope?

There were certainly the alchemy equivalent of snake oil sellers. Watch in amazement, as I transform a useless metal to gold in front of your very eyes! Purchase my extremely cheap magic powder (only the finest crushed Philosopher’s Stone) and do it yourself at home!

Couldn’t say whether there were any people who legitimately were trying to make gold, though.

There were, and still are people who claim that at least a few times transmutation of base metals to gold was achieved. This article gives a report from an alchemist in 1925 claiming that he produced gold and detailing how he did it.

Also, this article (from the same site) gives a listing of dates through history when gold was claimed to have been produced.

The main goal of Western alchemy, however, isn’t to make gold, but to raise one’s environment and oneself to a higher level, and to gain enlightenment though doing so.

Do you really think all alchemists fell into only one of these categories? If not, well, what’s your question exactly?

The question is: Since I don’t believe it’s possible to make gold out of other elements (barring a fusion reaction) did alchemists who claimed to be engaged in this pursuit actually believe they could make gold, or did they make such claims in order to get cash advances from wealthy people. If they genuinely thought it could be done, I must admire their persistence.

I must plead ignorance on the “categories of alchemists” but I do realize they did other things, as I stated in the OP.

Generally it was a scam, and a rather dangerous one. The problem was; if you could make gold, why would you need a research grant from a wealthy patron? You’d be rich anyway. There were cases in history of alchemists claiming to be able to make gold and being imprisoned and told they would be released when they’d made enough gold to buy their freedom.

I don’t think it’s accurate to say “generally, it was a scam.” In the medieval period (for Europe), pursuit of the philosopher’s stone was a legitimate scientific goal, although just one of many for most alchemists. Few of these people ever made much progress toward that goal, for obvious reasons. Medeival alchemy was a range, from scientists to quacks. Compare astrology. In the medieval period, this field covered both what we would think of today as astronomers and astrologers. Now, the two groups don’t even talk to each other, but they have a common intellectual history.

By the Renaissance it was a different story. There were certainly a lot of scam artist claiming success or near-success, and the more scientific minds tended to pursue other directions. I recommend Ben Jonson’s The Alchemist for a 17th-century view of alchemical con artists.

There was serious theory behind it, based on such stuff as everything being composed of four elements. So if iron is one mixture of the elements, and gold is another, then shouldn’t it be possible to change the mixture?

Now we know the theory is false – but we also know that iron and gold are both composed of electrons, protons and neutrons (3 “elementary” substances rather than 4). So you can still ask the question, why can’t you change the mixture? And the answer is that in fact you can, but it takes so much energy that it’s not a cost-effective way of producing gold.

So the scientific alchemists, even though wrong, were not all that far off the track. But the scam merchants, who pretended that it would be easy to do without a knowledge of nuclear physics, and without the wealth to build particle accelerators, were indeed scam merchants.

It’s worth noting that he claimed to “convert” 0.476 grains (30.8mg) per 10g of silver to gold. I do not know the origin of his silver samples, but trace gold is often found, even today, in silver samples, as well as chemical reagents. The purity of reagents available in 1925 was much lower than available today, and even today many reagents are commonly used at 95% or 99% purity.

As the junior guy in a lab back in the late 70s, I ordered the supplies. Lab chemicals aren’t nearly as pure as laymen imagine: 95% pure “technical grade” was often used because it was much cheaper than “reagent grade” (99-99.5% pure, depending on the chemical and supplier) and each higher grade could cost up to twice as much (or more) as the one before it.

Gold, being relatively inert, was usually considered a fairly innocuous contaminant. It is commonly mined with antimony, arsenic and silver ore. Gold contamination can be further increased by recycling: antimony and arsenic were both used in certain industrial gold extraction and purification processes, and gold is often found in silver jewelry. Believe it or not, before the gold boom of the late 1970s, gold cost ~$35/oz vs. $7 for silver (and more for many “pure” chemical reagents), so not only was the trace gold not worth the time/effort of recovery, but might actually act as a “cheap filler” for the purified reagent it displaced!

Therefore I would not be at all surprised if Ballandras actually only succeeded in extracting trace gold already present in his sample. His finding would correspond to ~0.3% contamination of the silver, and given that his process use (unreported, and very possibly greater) amounts of antimony and arsenic compounds, it could represent <0.1% of the total sample + reagents used. Also, in 1925, many chemists extracted their own reagents, if needed. Stibnite (Antimony sulfide, and a common antimony ore) was widely sold by pharmacists [Brit: ‘chemists’] and chemical houses in that era.

Leaving aside the charlatans, the same processs could have happened to even honest alchemists --especially since there were no reagent houses at the time, alchemists (and chemists as late as Ballandras in 1925) often extracted their own reagents from organic or mineral sources

An alchemist, working with “pure” antimony (which many considered a form of lead early in the alchemical age) could easily have extracted some gold, and spent the rest of his career trying to scale his process up to preparative scale [“scaling up to preparative scale” has been a common joke for generations of weary junior chemists and technicians, e.g. “Twas the night to make crystals” (1978)]. And thus was yet another “changing lead to gold” legend born.

Even as a kid, I always wondered why legend always had them starting with lead. Sure, lead was available since at least Roman times, but so were iron and many other metals. It’s possible that the natural association of antimony and gold (and their similar melting points) played a role.

Since Gold is relatively inert, any long series of extractions or separations might yield the hidden trace gold by removing everything else.

Isaac Newton wrote on the subject than on what we would recognise as ‘science’. Paraphrasing someone else (I can’t remember who): In Newton’s time, trying to turn base metal into gold seemed far less crazy than claiming everything was attracted to everything else, or that if you started something moving it would just keep going.

“…wrote more on the subject…”

And it was Mark Steel who said that.

Again, do you really think is has to be either/or? Some were sincere, some were worthless charlatans, exactly as per other pseudosciences today. I’m really not understanding what other possible answer you think there could have been.

He’s worked all his life (and he’s terribly old)
On a wonderful spell that says, "Lo and behold!
“Your nursery-fender is gold!” And it’s gold!
(Or the tongs, or the rod for the curtain)
But somehow he hasn’t got hold of it quite
Or the liquid he pours on it first isn’t right
So that’s why he works on it night after night
'Til he knows he can do it for certain

– A.A. Milne

Exactly. Alchemical processes involve taking a base metal or, say, cauldron of earth, and treating it with heat, cold, pounding, grinding, sifting, rinsing, evaporating, condensing, etc. If you start with a bushel of garden soil, you’ll end up with a few grains of gold. I’ve done it myself, following alchemical procedures. I don’t believe I created gold out of compost and earthworm casings, but it was neat to find a few grains of gold when I was done. (I did the whole thing for spiritual reasons, as well as curiosity.)

This is one goal of *modern *alchemy, but I’ve never seen evidence that it was true of medieval alchemy. There’s some speculation that the alchemists notes are written in code, and that by “gold” they meant “spritual transcendance” and the phsyical directions are cues for metaphysical meditations, but there’s not a lot of support for that theory.

It seems at least one alchemist - Trevisan - honestly pursued transmutation of base metals into gold. Bernard Jaffe’s book “Crucibles”[sup]1[/sup] has a chapter which chronicles Trevisan’s life.
This webpage has a good summary of the chapters of “Crucibles”.
http://online.redwoods.cc.ca.us/depts/science/chem/crucible.htm

1- This book is a history of chemistry as told through the most famous chemists of each age.

I suppose that there as a mixture of true believers and con artists. That seems to be the general rule in the world.

I seems that the field of alchemy encompassed some lofty goals.