We can "chip" violent criminals to make them incapable of aggression. Should we?

It is a sign the says, “HERE IS A FORMER FELON THAT CANNOT DEFEND HIMSELF. HERE IS YOUR CHANCE AT PAYBACK. IT"S O.K., HE PROBABLY DESERVES IT ANYWAY, AND THE BEST PART IS HE CAN’T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT!”

“Felon” means “one who has committed a felon.” I think you mean “former convict,” not “former felon” (except in the case of those who have proven their innocence after conviction, who per the OP would have their chips removed at government expense).

Anyway, your argument works best against the three-time losers who are chipped for life. So let me ask you: Are the 1 or 2 time offenders, who agree to be chipped in exchange for having their prison sentences halved and whose chips are removed when their time in prison would otherwise have been over, better off in prison without the chip, or in the world?

In the world, released in their old environs, the very first time in a situation where someone gets a little shovey and it is found out that they are incapable of shoving back…I just hope they have the chance to get that chip ripped out and get their cell back before it is too late.

No, actually, three. (Points to his post about the sex offender registry.) Mission creep. We’ll start out only using it on violent repeat offenders but it will soon be used on children who bring drawings of guns to school.

Skald, if you had to declaw a cat, would you set it loose in an ally full of other feral cats?

Who suggested posting a sign?

This is one of the big arguments against the sex-offender registry being public.

I’d suggest we not make the same mistake. (No big orange tattoos on the forehead, etc.)

ETA: on the other hand, it could be kind of fun to pretend to be chipped, and then, when assaulted, beat the shit out of the assailants.

What I am suggesting is word of that chip existing would be the equivalent of posting such a sign.
The funny part is, even if you could keep the list of participants completely secret, you create an entirely new problem-people fresh out of prison dropped back into their old neighborhoods that have to prove somehow that they aren’t one of the secret “chipped” to avoid getting harassed. Mere knowledge that this program exists will create the rumors that will destroy the lives.

And how many sisters, daughters or you mother reaped. Then they let him out After he said in court to the judge he would go after her again and they let him out and he did and she had to jump through a closed window to get away. As far as my sisters case is concerned, she is notified every time he comes up for parole, never made it out yet. And that is a good thing. I would prefer the sharks over what my Dad had planned for him if he got off … But there was no doubt about it. The judge & the system did not even apologize to my sister or notify her that he was out before his trial.

So, yeah, sharks are a real good penalty IMO. He got off easy being in prison.

Not criminals. I said nothing about another criminals other than rapist of the sort that attacked my sister. So you were just stirring the pot trying to start something. Get back to me after your 18 year old daughter is murdered. :rolleyes:

My sister’s fiance was murdered. Not quite the same as an offspring, but pretty close.

I’m still wholly opposed to vigilante violence.

I am sorry for what happened to your family, and for how your local law has mistreated the situation, but that still does not change my mind as to how people should be treated after they have served their time in prison.
A link about sex crime recidivism.

Firstly, I disagree that date rape is not a violent act in-and-of-itself, but I see where you’re going with that. I’d love to see research to get that exception removed.
Also the no violence in self defence exception (Weird, I know, coming from me, but enough other people believe in the right to violent self defence that I think it should be looked into allowing that)

Also, does it only work re: human violence? What about harming animals?

Other than that, I’d say the stated legal framework doesn’t do it for me. Either everyone must be chipped, from a reasonable age (13 sounds good to me) or no-one must. I favour making the chipping mandatory for everyone, worldwide.

If it does work on violence against animals, humanity is eaten. There’s also the problem that society would collapse since criminals and the insane would become nearly unstoppable.

And there’s no way it could be imposed worldwide on everyone without massive violence; as a pacifist measure it’s only one in the “peace of the graveyard” sense.

There’s an interesting plot for a science fiction story. You could call it “Chippies.”

Now THAT’S what I call mission creep!

In the first place, I’m pretty sure I didn’t write date rate; I referred to using a roofie. And while I agree that it’s a vile act, I’m just saying that it’s not the sort of violence that trips the chip’s sensors. Why not? Eat your spinach, that’s why not.

Well, if this were an Evil!Skald thread, I’d reply that I just ate a cheeseburger and will be making chicken casserole for dinner and honestly do not give a fuck about animals not named “Mrs. Whatsit II.” But of course it’s not an Evil!Skald thread, and…

Nah. I still don’t care about violence to animals.

You realize that you’re talking about killing 1 out of every 10,000 of the people of the world, right? The OP specifies that that proportion of subjects die when the chip first goes off.

Not to mention that, if the chip prevents violence against animals as you seem to desire, you’ve just handed over the keys to the Earth to the rats.

Give it up, Skald. Jiminy Cricket has spoken.

:: steps on JC, hard enough to kill it but slowly enough so that I can enjoy his pain ::

I’m sorry, what were you saying?

Skald, really?

Son, I am disappoint.

You’re supposed to advocate the widespread, nay, UNIVERSAL, adoption of anti-violence technology. Secretly, you negotiate/extort/finagle an effective exemption for YOUR OPERATIVES.

I can’t believe Jack Handey is more evil than you. :frowning:

:: puts on Cobra Commander mask ::

I am not an evil overlord. (Why would I want to conquer the world? Do you realize how much work is involved in RULING the world?) I am an EVIL SERVICES PROVIDER.

Isn’t that one kind of date rape? Slip your date a roofie, etc?

Like I said, I’d like more research. It’s irrelevant to my actual answer, though.

I’m not saying I want this to be the case, I was pointing out that you hadn’t specified type of violence, so there might be unintended consequences. I like my steaks.

Nope. 1 of 10,000 people who are about to commit violence. A distinction of some import.

So, suicide, then. I can live with that.

Naah, it’s not my desire. Not wanting to be eaten by rats is kind of why I asked the question.