Date rape is raping a person you are on a date with. It may or may not involve roofie; old-fashioned violence happens too.
Slip your date a roofie, etc? Like I said, I’d like more research.I’m not saying I want this to be the case, I was pointing out that you hadn’t specified type of violence, so there might be unintended consequences. I like my steaks.Nope. 1 of 10,000 people who are about to commit violence. A distinction of some import.
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Right. They might have been about to slap someone in anger, and because of whatever genetic quirk causes the hundredth of the hundredth to die from the chip, they are punished for that minor violence with death. Seems disproportionate. Not all violence is equal. Sometimes violence is the moral choice. Moreover, your plan INVOLVES violence on a huge scale.
…and their irrational* violent tendencies are removed from the gene pool. So it’s a double win!
Violence begets violence. You’ve just handed me the chance to tear it out at the root. A few deaths is a small price to pay for world peace. I mean, you’re willing to allow manyfold more deaths, in allowing continued violence - all those spousal slaps that lead to wifebeatings that lead to domestic murder - those guys are only going to get chipped after the first offence. Sucks for their victims, I guess.
Not in a world where no-one else is violent, either.
Unless you believe violence is the 'proportionate" response to, say, insults or cheque fraud.
Just at the startup. And not deadly violence. Just the hold-them-down-and-chip-them kind. I believe can live with that. And i don’t think most people will violently resist if it’s clear everyone will be chipped. But I have plans for how to sell it to the world…
*since they know just a slap is a 1 in 10000 death chance…
The OP makes it clear that it’s only violent actions that count, not fantasies. And yes, i shoved people, that’s why a 13 start time. And I’d take a 1-in-10,000 chance, myself, for world peace.
None of those are violence. Harmful outcome is inherent in the meaning of the word.
That’s not pacifism, that’s offloading the blame by automating the killing.
Which will likely involve the annihilation of most of the human species. First, you’d have to wage nuclear war on nuclear armed countries since you can’t conquer them without being nuked anyway. Then, you’d have to conquer the survivors, killing everyone who resists. And, you’d have to somehow keep enough infrastructure up to build and install the chips. Then, you’d somehow have to convince the army that committed all that mass slaughter to chip itself.
There would have to be specific professional exceptions.
I’m presuming we’d kind of like to maintain a small military for national defense (just in case the other country decides to un-chip a regiment to come across our border…)
Universal obligatory pacifism is dealt with, charmingly, in B.F. Skinner’s “Walden Two.” It’s a light and fluffy idealist daydream, but, in any kind of real practice, it’s absurd. Damon Knight’s “Analogues” (referred to upthread?) is another interesting fictional exploration.
There was also a lovely old SF story where a chemical was released world-wide so that everyone felt the pain that they inflicted. If I pop someone in the nose…my nose gets bloodied. Can’t remember the author or title.
I’m good with chipping violent felons with their consent. The universal application, not so much.
(I sometimes think we might benefit from putting a mild dose of tranquilizers in everyone’s drinking water…)
You’re not going to get my buy-in on a benevolent government and a growing segment of the population deciding that it would be just awesome to preemptively chip everyone when they’re toddlers before they develop violent habits.
I also remember reading a book several decades back when dead tree publishing was the only game in town. Instead of a chip the felon had a ring surgically grafted to their finger. One of the past-times that neighborhood gangs amused themselves with was kick the ringer. Unfortunately I don’t remember the book or the main plot. But I’m pretty sure it was about bringing down the system.
Once again - the only killing is going to be that of people who commit acts of violence knowing the risks. Like I said - suicide.
Details. You don’t balk at the magic chip, but the logistics is where you express your disbelief? If Skald can have a magic brain chip, I can have magic gnat-sized chip-implanting AI drone-robots, in numbers sufficient to inoculate the entire planet one Dec 25th night. There, Whirled Peas for Xmas, it’s truly a miracle!