"We don't subscribe to the germ theory."

My boss sees one regularly, and I have inherited my parents disgust of chiropractors (they are both in the medical field), so maybe I can tell you what people see in them.

From what I have seen, a chiropractor offers relief from aches, pains, etc. without telling you that you need to change your behavior. So you can continue an unhealthy lifestyle without anyone preaching to you like a doctor will. Yes, the relief is temporary, but lots of chiro patients are not long-term planners.

There’s also the one-stop answer to all of your problems. Headaches, foot aches, backaches, arm pain, insomnia, depression, anxiety, and the common cold can be ‘cured’ through these treatments. Lots of people like to go for the simple path, even if it’s likely that the answer is wrong.

Look, chiropracty isn’t a miracle cure. It can’t do anything about disease. It can’t cure a cold, or a hangnail, or your marriage.

But it does have positive effects. It relieves pain. It can help prevent more pain. Chiropracty itself isn’t quackery. The claims that most of its practitioners make, on the other hand…

In other words, it’s not the same as homeopathy, which has no discernible effect beyond placebo. Chiropracty actually works, even if not to the wild claims that are made for it. If the crazy chiros would just shut up and quit calling themselves doctors, then chiropracty would be as accepted as massage therapy.

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Originally posted by jayjay
Where did you come up with this? It sounds like a 3-year-old’s explanation of how you contract diseases.

Germ theory is simply a descriptor for the recognition that microbes cause some diseases. There is no requirement that contact with said microbes will cause disease without exception.

jayjay:

When the original Germ Theory was proposed, little was known about germs and how they worked. This is why it sounds like the explanation of a 3-year-old. According to Ptolemaic theory of planetary motion, we lived in a geocentric, rather than a heliocentric solar system right? Like most theories, what originally sounded plausible now sounds like a 3-year-old’s explanation.

Misconceptions about health are ingrained in our culture. The road to understanding the process of maintaining and restoring health has been a long and twisted one. From ancient and intuitive knowledge, science has taken over, made colossal errors, and clings to them for dear life. Many times there was a rejection of wisdom or scientific discovery in favor of a more popular, convenient, or politically desirable system. Just as Socrates was poisoned for his ideas, and Galileo was forced to withdraw his statements regarding the heliocentric solar system, ignorance and power can be a dangerous combination.

We do not catch diseases (3-year-old reasoning). We build them. We work hard at developing our diseases. We must work just as hard at restoring health. The presence of germs does not constitute the presence of a disease. Bacteria are scavengers of nature…they reduce dead tissue to its smallest element. Germs or bacteria have no influence, whatsoever, on live cells. Germs or microbes flourish as scavengers at the site of disease. They are just living on the unprocessed metabolic waste and diseased, malnourished, nonresistant tissue in the first place. They are not the cause of the disease, any more than flies and maggots cause garbage (This is what the chiropractor meant by not supporting the Germ Theory). Flies, maggots, and rats do not cause garbage but rather feed on it. Mosquitoes do not cause a pond to become stagnant! (In reality, it is not the “germs” themselves that produce the disease, but the chemical constituents of these microorganisms enacting upon the unbalanced cell metabolism of the human body that in actuality produce the disease symptoms.) What people commonly think of as causes of disease, are symptoms.

The Rife Universal Microscope, developed in the late 1930’s and early 1940’s, clearly established that germs (microorganisms) are the result of disease (scavengers of dead cells) rather than the cause thereof. If germs are involved, they arise as primary symptoms of that general condition. Though germs don’t cause disease, secondary symptoms are produced in response to their activity (commonly called the disease). One reason the conventional medical community doesn’t see the big picture is their means of looking at it. A lot depends on how you look at it and what you look at it with.

I’m not trying to defend or slander chiropractors. This is a knowledge base, not a slam session for you to vent your anger towards others trying to contribute. So, keep it clean and quit taking cheap shots that don’t help contribute to anyone’s understanding. The chiropractor was simply stating the obvoius, but you failed to recognize it.

Curse you Miller to the darkest depths of hell. I was going to say that.,…but you said it funnier. Bastard.

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Oh, I’m sorry, brettzwo. I was unaware that you were an adherent of quack medicine.

Disease causes pathogens!??

:rolleyes:

“In Russia, Germ Theory subscribe YOU!”

Well, if it ducks like a quack…
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And, indeed, it will stop…just as soon as we put down the mobs of people who believe in qi, homeopathy, and the always efficacious but never harmful healing powers of herbs, and who will storm government and industry offices, outraged that the evil 'cuda establishment suppresses these superior therapeutic modalities and refuses to pay for them.

You go on out to the barricades. I’ll be with you as soon as I finish my coffee.

I had a wonderful chiropractor when I hurt myself at work about 8 years ago. Dr. Lyle Smith, in Red Deer, Alberta. He made my back better in the space of three weeks. He didn’t once tell me anything nutso, and in fact didn’t charge me for services as he knew I was a single parent just scraping by - even though he knew that WCB would reimburse me.

When I had clients in other parts of Canada who were chiropractors, I would tell them about Dr. Smith. Every one of them knew him or had been taught by him, and had great things to say about him.