"We don't subscribe to the germ theory."

So, I am at work with my yearly cold sniffles and cough. It happens about this time of year for about 3 or 4 days, I get some sort of respiratory virus. Anyway, I work in a Chiropractic clinic, and, btw, my co-workers get sick non stop year round; someone is always trading off colds with someone there. When I get my yearly bout, I usually take a day or two off to recover, plus well, hell, a day off to sit at home always sounds good. Anyway, I am there back at work after being gone a day, and I’m still coughing pretty bad with this cold, and I jokingly say to one of the doctors who is walking by, “Oh don’t get near me, I’ve got a cold.” And he looks at me and says, as if I am the stupidest person in the world, “We don’t subscribe to the germ theory.” Oh excuse me for my ignorance. I’ll just stop covering my mouth since that’s a pain anyway and interupts my job duties. Hell, just come over here and let me cough in your face, share my coffee cup with you, and my half eaten apple, and hell, bring your kids on to work and let me play with them too! What is it with those people? You see, if you have a “popped” back regularly, your immune system is strong and you won’t get sick…however if you don’t get popped, your subluxations will lower your immune system, thus you will get sick. But IT’S NOT THE GERMS THAT MAKE YOU SICK. IT’S THE SUBLUXATIONS. Germs really aren’t harmful to you. This is what they tell me and the patients. So I ask you, why the hell are they bothering to wash their hands? The germs aren’t the problem, right? I see them, in between patients, washing their hands… before lunch, they wash their hands… they should just stop…why waste soap? There are no harmful germs, apparently. So WHY WASTE THE SOAP? I work in the back area, btw, so I am away from those coughing spewing idiots up front who continue to pass and trade disease states year round. I will stop now. These people piss me off to no end. If I don’t stop now, I will not be able to stop, and my husband will find what is left of my dead and smoldering, enraged remains poised in mid type at this keyboard. :smack:

Well, there goes a major pro evolution argument. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

ARGGHHH, MY SUBLUXATIONS!!! OAOAOAOAHH GOD!

My cousin’s husband is a chiropractor and he refused to let his three children be vaccinated, because “there is nothing that can’t be cured by chiropratic”. :eek:

Looks like sometimes even doctors need adjustments.

Isn’t that illegal?

Chiropractics is a cult.

Now I see why Chiropractics is considered the joke of the medical community…

I thought that it was just meant to cure headaches.

:eek:

How does an ethical legal system allow such a thing not only to go on but to be institutionalized?

Because they had subluxations, making their minds feeble.

This is a rural village and we have our share of Punch Quacks, to say nothing of a major chiro hospital at Mt. Horab just across the Father of Waters. One of the locals Palmer disciples claims to have cured his daughter of a skull fracture (probably a mild concussion) by spinal manipulations. I was horrified that the Department of Human Services did not step in when he took the kid out of the hospital.

On the other hand he is also under the impression that his cat is passing messages from the Prince of Darkness. His wife bailed some time ago taking the children with her. The cat starts talking to him when ever he goes off his court ordered medications but quits after a few days in the state Mental Health Institution. When ever the sheriff’s car is in front of his office/clinic we know that the cat is talking to him again.

Germ theory is, after all, just a theory. That’s why its called a theory. Other wise it would be the Law of Germs. Right?

There are a few good ones out there, but there are a lot of wackos. The guy my mom used to see in California was really good, and he didn’t go around claiming to cure asthma or any crap like that. He only worked on musculoskeletal problems, and if you came in with something he couldn’t work with he’d tell you. He also had the best massage therapist in the world working in his office; I saw her a couple of times. Thanks to my weird orthopedic problem, I would never let a chiro near me for adjustments (though with my fused back they couldn’t do much anyway) but he did get me some good orthotics.

Maybe you ought to find a job where the medical personnel have joined the 20th century, let alone the 21st?

If you are refferring to jarbabyj’s post about vaccinations, no, it is not illegal to refuse vaccinations. Even if you are strange.

There are some reputable chiropracters out there. They stick to treating musculoskeletal complaints involving the back and neck with manipulation and heat and ultrasound and a few other legitimate modalities.

But if your chiropracter claims to treat other diseases such as diabetes, hypertension, or even the common cold, then it would be my recommendation that you avoid them like the plague.

The above opinion is echoed by a number of chiropracters with whom I have been professionally associated with in the past.

QtM, MD

There are some good Chiropractors out there, and most of them would dearly love to be a part of the “regular” medical community. But they’re stuck in a Catch-22:

The “legit” Chiropractors (the ones that only do neck and spinal adjustment for neck and spinal problems) want to join the AMA for, among other reasons, the AMA’s oversight and regulatory powers, in order to help “filter out” the quacks, the ‘energy manipulators’ and other new-age crap.

But the AMA doesn’t want anything to do with them, since so many Chiropractors- or people calling themselves chiropractors anyway, since there’s no real regulatory oversight- are loons and quacks.

Hell yeah, if you didn’t know this: Chiropractors work for God. They are Born to Be Chiropractors. Chiropractors can “cure” asthma, psoriasis, constipation, colic, hearing problems, sexual dysfunction, kidney stones, your doggie’s back problems, what ever the hell ails you, your loved ones and your dog … ad nauseam.

“Maybe you ought to find a job where the medical personnel have joined the 20th century, let alone the 21st?”

Yeah, I have often thought about this in the midst of the headache-causing idiocy. I left a job to join these guys a few years back; my job at a conventional medical clinic. These guys enticed me away. And greedy me…. I work there part-time, I can set my hours as I please (as many or as little hours as I want to get the job done), and they outrageously overpay me. They can try to feed me all their bullshit, but I’m not digesting it! Just pay me and let me the hell out!

It is however, impossible for your children to go to public school (and I would bet, most private schools) if they’ve never had a vaccination. Public schools will not accept children who are not up-todate on their vaccinations, period, AFAIK. I’m not sure if it’s illegal, per se, but I do know no vaccination, no school.

I forgot to mention, the chiropractor I mentioned above said he wouldn’t touch me with a ten-foot pole, and told me to avoid anybody who would.

A part-time job where the hours are flexible and you’re overpaid? That’d be hard to leave, I must admit. I need that job. :smiley: At least you know they’re wackos!

:rollseyes:

Ah, the wonders of pseudoscience! Is there anything it can’t do?

Excuse me, I need to go lie down and reread some back issues of Scientific American now.

I do feel bad for the legitimate chiropractors. It’s kind of like being one of the moderate Southern Baptists…the nuts who share your name get all the press.

This varies by state. Some states have laws that permit exemptions from immunization for religious reasons. Even if exempt an unimmunized child might be excluded from participating in classes for a quarantine period if it is believed that he (or she) has been exposed to a contagious disease, even if no symptoms present.

Oh and, my mother sees a chiropractor and has enjoyed relief from a variety of problems - not asthma or diabetes or anything like that, back troubel, soreness in her neck related to (she believes) a pinched nerve.

A guest at a party I attended was about to take some tests to graduate from chiropractic school and when he left the room almost every single person present was saying “Yikes, what if he passes? I would NEVER let that guy work on me!”