We might have to pick one of these cities for relocation - help!

In Atlanta, it’s all going to depend upon where in the city your job would be - because if you’re working downtown, you’re going to end up in boring suburbia in order to have the house fit your requirements (though maybe one of the closer end suburbs - the Doraville area, perhaps).

I lived here from 1999-2002, left swearing I’d never live here again, then moved back in 2010, and currently have no real intentions of moving. I wouldn’t call it a fast growing economy, but housing has been coming back strong in some areas, and much slower in others. It’s near impossible to suggest locations to look at, though - because if you work, say, near the airport, you don’t want to live way the hell up in Acworth, because of the commute.

The office is downtown in Atlanta (and in the other 4 cities, too).

I’m sure you’ve considered this, but I gotta ask: How about changing employers and staying put?

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No; with my wife’s MS we would have a lot of trouble replacing our health insurance.

Most of Aurora is quite nice, actually. Portions in Adams County can be a bit sketchy, but I wouldn’t hesitate to consider parts of the city that sit in Arapahoe and Douglas County. Much of Aurora has a 1980s planned community feel (strict architectural controls, landscaping everywhere, winding parks and trails, no billboards or large signs, etc), which some really like, and others find off-putting. It also gets a bad rap for being located east of Denver, towards the plains rather than the mountains.

The old core of Commerce City is quite rough. CC has annexed a lot of land, and much of it has filled up with “bang for the buck” subdivisions. You’ll get a lot of house for the money, in a quaint New Urbanism-ish subdivision, but you’re still saddled with a Commerce City address.

The Denver metro area is generally very affluent, and some suburbs many locals consider “bad” (Westminster, Thoronton, Northglenn, Aurora) are actually pretty decent by the standards of a more “middle class” metro. It’s all relative.

Alas, it was many years ago–but my other lived in Fort Worth for a while. There are some older neighborhoods close to downtown, although I don’t know the current prices. Better than “boring suburbia”–although the Metroplex has oodles of that…

Fort Worth has more interesting culture than you might think–many prefer it to Dallas. Let’s hope somebody with more recent news shows up!

I too grew up in the OC…live in West LA now, and it is a great, if weord, place to live. The weather, the culture, the people from so many different places. SoCal is like a 21st century version of ancient Rome. Of you embrace this place and accept it for what it is you wll love it.

No.

Except for taxes, Dallas/Ft Worth pales in comparison. There is just so much more here…a;beit spread out. In winter its possible to surf in the morning and ski in the afternoon. There is vastly more culture here. The OC is very family friendly. Also, working in Santa Ana means that there would be many great areas to live where you woukldnt have to get on a freeway of you didnt want. Its not like LA.

Can we get a little more data? What are your ages? How much of a down payment can you come up with? What do you like to do in your spare time?

Hopefully these aren’t too personal, and I don’t mean to pry. I have some ideas but this data would help me to give a better answer for you. I have direct experience with most of your city options.

I’d choose Denver from that list if I didn’t love Texas so much (and I’m a godless liberal gay guy). So my vote goes for Fort Worth, even though I live in Houston. Cost of living is better and people in the south are nicer.

Denver is easily the best overall city on that list though.

Don’t forget to check the real cost of living in each location. In other words, if you are a federal employee what is your current salary plus any locality differential you are currently receiving, and compare with all the cities in question. Then compare any special income variations which may apply to each city. IIRC, Philly has a city income tax (and you will never get a refund from them!).

Only after you have some good ballpark figures on actual gross and net income for each location, then start comparing what you can/cannot afford.

Is there any way you can spend a little time in the prospective cities? At least those that are on the short list? Due to a unique job scenario, we were able to choose between a variety of areas before settling and buying a house.

Remember that in each of the cities, you can probably find an area more suited to yourselves than whatever’s in the city’s reputation. (I didn’t put that well, but I hope it was clear).

My adult son was bummed about being transferred to NJ. Turns out that there are fun places and great people there, and he thinks it gets a bum rap (esp. from Texans).

A poster above said DFW is a soulless conglomeration of suburbs. I live there (in the city limits) and this picture and this picture were taken close to my house (the first is within a mile). This one is a couple of hours away. Add in the Kimbell, Bass Hall, Sundance Square, and the Botanic gardens and you might find the area is more than you expected.

Anyway, best of luck on your move. :slight_smile:

I’m in my late 40s and my wife is in her late 30s. :cool: The down payment is unknown because it will depend on if we lose money selling this house (but our next door neighbor is very interested in it for his daughter!). Figure $40k.
We play tons of bar trivia, so a city with lots of that would be nice. We’re not huge outdoors people (but not shut-ins by any stretch.) Hope that helps!

It does help, thanks.

With your wife’s mobility needs and challenges, winter weather jumps out to me as a factor. Thinking of her, I think of slippery snow and ice. You’ve lived in New England (and I did, too), so you know the drill. You’re plenty young now, but as you get older those slips and falls will exact a bigger toll. Imagine 25-30 years down the road and a broken hip.

I grew up in Upstate NY and New England and have spent a fair amount of time in the midwest. Hot and humid summer weather can be depressing, driving you indoors to the fans and AC. That comes to mind when I consider Atlanta and Fort Worth. Philadelphia too. Also, Atlanta traffic is some of the worst in the lower 48 states, and Fort Worth is along that tornado alley between the Gulf of Mexico and the Great Lakes. Look at a map, and those large bodies of water are energy potentials for storms. I used to be stationed at Fort Sill in Lawton, OK - if you get tired of the weather, wait 15 minutes and it’ll change.

I was leaning towards Denver for you, but that winter weather gives me pause again. My vote is for Santa Ana.

I live in Northern California, and yes housing prices are crazy. Have been for at least the 30+ years since I’ve been here, and I’m sure they were crazy before that. It took a while to get used to earthquakes (the ground is NOT supposed to move under my feet!), but they’re very infrequent and we have great building codes to absorb much of the energy transfer. Consider the Missouri tectonic plates and the New Madrid Seismic Zone where the buildings in that area aren’t anywhere nearly as prepared - and they’re quite overdue for a bad quake.

There’s a reason California prices are crazy - it’s such a great place to live, and it all starts with the great year-round weather we have. Start with great weather, and from there you can do anything. Bad news is, Santa Ana is quite unaffordable. Santa Ana recently ranked # 3 of 10 least affordable housing markets:

But you’re doing your research, you know that. Orange County is a conservative county, too. But conservative is a relative term - conservative for California is probably liberal for the rest of the US.

If there’s ANY way you can start here, scrape by at first, then buy a humble home, then you’re “in” to the market here, and then since you’re still young your investment will pay off nicely over the years. Even if you move elsewhere, take a data point now just to compare in 10-15 years.

California really is a great place to live. Check us out. The weather really is great.

Good luck to you, sir, and I’m guessing your wife is blessed to have you to take care of her.

Is that right? I thought a lot of group plans didn’t have a problem with pre-existing conditions if you are transferring over from a different plan.

I concur, you may want to check that out. However, job stability might be a risk factor.

I live in Denver… moved here as a relocation option, coincidentally, about ten years ago… Couldn’t have worked out better for me…

We have two dogs, two cats and six kids… pets are not a problem.

Aas for neighborhoods, I work in the Tech Center. so the south burbs has always been the choice. Centennial, Parker, Littleton, Castle Rock.

What about the kids, is that why you’re furious? :smiley:

Kids aren’t pets? I had to train mine not to poop on the floor. :smiley: