Well, you covered the “below freezing” part well enough. Truthfully, people around Boston don’t start * seriously * complaining about the temperature until it drops below zero for a few days, and that’s mostly not because it’s cold but because those temperatures put an unusual stress on water pipes and heating bills.
But the OP was complaining about some 24" blizzard. I was just pointing out that we had approximately the same thing roll through the East Coast last year and it was * nothing like * as bad as a hurricane or flood. The reason “George Bush did not come…FEMA staged nothing…no one howled for the government…no one uttered an expletive on TV…nobody demanded $2,000 debit cards…no one asked for a FEMA Trailer House…no news anchors moved in.” is that it didn’t actually do that much damage.
Oh for Chrissake… Use the metric side of the ruler, at least you’ll *think * you’re bigger than you really are.
I guess that it’s really no surprise that you and **whistlepig ** are taking the same side of the argument, using logic like this. Where the fuck did this come from? If you are listening to the newscasters from here for that comment, then you know as well as I do that they blow everything out of proportion. Yeah, it doesn’t get as cold here as it does in Montana. But it did get down to -10F for the last few winters and I don’t remember that anything stopped. I certainly had to go to work, and I sat in traffic with everyone else. We get snow, too; not as early as this but we get it. That article talked about a 12 inch storm, but even if really was 24 inches- “Biblical proportions”? Jeez, maybe should we be ask the evangelists if God hates Montana? We had 36 inch snowfalls last year and the year before, and we shoveled out and went to work just like you did. Dick.
I’m not sure how much I really want to get inside your alleged minds; I just bought these shoes. But, if I had to guess, I’d say that it is becoming clear to you that the people of the United States are going to have to pay for New Orleans. Rather than accept that our government fucked up in the planning, fucked up in the execution, fucked up in not taking responsibility (until they had to), you are blaming the victims of NO by living there. Assmunch, most of the people who stayed behind did so because they couldn’t afford a car to get out. We’re talking real poverty here. People were born there and that is their home.
If it ain’t so bad, why not go there and wade around in toxic sludge for awhile. Literally, I mean, not the figurative sludge you seem mired in right now.
Get off your high horse. You live in the US. Citizens of the US got hit badly by Katrina, and need help. You’re telling them they should deal with the consequences and shut up? Well, being a citizen is being part of the solution and if you can’t accept that, then get the fuck out of my country.
Damn, on preview it appears that others have already made my points. Well, add this to the list.
Born and raised in Fargo, ND, now living in Minneapolis checking in…
I used to have the same attitude about the New Englaners whining like a bunch of pussies about their “Noreasters”…
…until I lived through a Noreaster. While they aren’t as nasty as a good ol’ plains blizzard, they are, in fact, one of the most MISERABLE storms I have ever experienced. Imagine a blizzard, with rain, slush, wind and humidity. I can handle the 140 degree annual swings in temperature better than one of those noreasters.
I console myself by knowing my ancestors were smart enough to leave New England for better climes.
You know it’s true. Those assholes in LA are bleeding the country dry. Do you know that for every dollar in federal taxes they pay, the state gets $1.47 back? Fucking leaches.
There aren’t many bigger parasite states in the country - except maybe *Montana * which is getting $1.60 back for every dollar it pays (7th biggest bunch of leaches in the country) and wait - could it be - ***North Dakota * which is making out like a bandit off the federal government - getting *$1.67 * back for every dollar it coughs up. ** Yes that’s right, pig. N.D. is a bigger parasite than all but four states in the nation (and a much bigger parasite than LA).
If anybody should be complaining it’s us Bostonians who are having our money steadily siphoned off by all of you (our state gets back 78 cents on the dollar, which means we’re the 4th most abused state in the nation) plus we still get the “biblical” blizzards. I think we did get two 2-footers this year, but I’m not sure, because those aren’t historic around here. We just call them big storms. And not only is there no FEMA truck anywhere in sight when they come, I still have to go to work during those bastards. So if the Bostonians here think you’re a whining pussy (and we do), then please be good enough to shut the fuck up.
Now try picturing having to sail through one of them. All of the above, no visibility, and swells of three to four feet. Winds that make a seven and a half ton boat surf.
I dunno, man. I drove to work through a 16" snowfall last winter. Thirty miles, same as I do every day.
Now, the thing I point and laugh at are the 240+ car pileups on the Beltway with half an inch of snow. That’s messed up.
YOUR country?!? I live in YOUR country? Thanks for having me as a guest (checks forum) douchebag. Now please show me where I mentioned fuck-all about the hurricanes. What a fucking asshole. Fuck you twice and thrice for pulling this shit you piece of shit. Fuck you and the ancestry that formed so many generations ago to produce you. Worthless fuck.
Anyway, to the rest. I was talking about the temp part of winter, not snowfall. Snowfall is little more than an inconvenience, MOST OF THE TIME. (Bolding because I just know someone will want to cite the great Blizzard of 19XX to make a point. Beat ya to it)
And when I said “paralyzed” that was obvious hyperbole, nimrod. Lighten up.
Of course, it’s all relative. Ever been through Dallas on an Interstate during a light rain? Wherever you’re trying to get to, call and let them know you’ll be late. I’m convinced there is some as yet unknown phenomenon that occurs when rain hits the freeway around there.
Well, duffer, I figured the “take heart, whistlepig” was an endorsement of his bizarre and inflammatory screed against Louisiana and the hurricanes, especially when you posted after he told us that we were missing his (rather blunt) point. If it wasn’t in agreement, (and you hardly made that clear, did you?) then I apologize to you. For that only. Yeah, I’m sick of selfish people sitting in judgement of whether folks in New Orleans deserved what they got. Or Ground Zero, for that matter. As far as I’m concerned, they aren’t Americans; in fact, I don’t consider them to be human beings, and I don’t think they deserve to live here.
Just curious here: You’re pissed at me? Well, just what would *you * do if someone posted that Montanans were pussies? Just a guess, but I imagine it would involve calling someone a douchebag and telling them to fuck themselves. Am I right? I just decided to go after you and your halfwitted post, and left the rest of your beautiful state alone. Funny, most folks I’ve met from Montana seem to be pretty nice. But, that’s the problem with making sweeping generalizations; you come along and prove to be the exception. You may want to paint with a finer brush next time. Who knows? There may be some folks from the Northeast here who might take offence at what you say.
And leave my ancestors alone, numbnuts, it was me who posted, not them. No opposable thumbs, you understand, it’s hard for them to type.
Aaaah. Hyperbole. Well, there’s a fine line between hyperbole and being a smug, self-centered, self-righteous, posturing idiot. I’m sure you’ll understand how I made that mistake.
I would like to ask that not all of North Dakota be included in the OP diatribe. Here in Fargo, it has only dropped below freezing once so far this season, and we have yet to see any snow.
Besides, it isn’t the snow that kills ya. It’s the two or three weeks of -40 and lower temps we get around January. I love living in a place that you practicaly have to put on a freeking space suit to survive five minutes outdoors.
whistlepig , you’re a dumbass. Also, since it appears from your OP that you are claiming credit for the actual writing of that oh so witty piece of shit, here is a fuck you for me having to delete about 20 copies of it from my inbox over the last few days. (I have a home and family/friends in North Dakota) Thanks.
As for duffer , seems to me I remember a few years back there was a town that was in danger of flooding. I can’t quite recall the name, maybe something like Grand Forks. I recall that for about a week me and my friends would get together after work and drive about 100 miles to Grand Forks and spend 6 or 7 hours filling sand bags and building dikes, drive home and repeat the next day. Working with us were people from all over the US and Canada. In fact, sometimes our groups would have more people from out of town/country than people from Grand Forks. When Grand Forks was flooded anyway, I spent about another four weeks working in support of FEMA(and slightly with the National Guard).
I saw FEMA hand out boatloads of money and provide food and shelter to residents of Grand Forks. And you know what? Those rugged individualists from Grand Forks , who need no help from the feds, who take care of each other, who just lite up a Coleman lantern and get on with life, took all that money, shelter and food. Some rugged individualism you guy have .
I was just offline for a few days. And WTF do federal payments for Social Security, welfare, CRP programs, federal forests, unemployment, WIC, etc, have to do with disaster response?
Well they have to do with what states are in a position to bitch about having to pay for the needs of others. If N.D. and Montana are bigger parasites on the federal budget than Louisiana (and the vast majority of states in the union), then it’s particularly dumb to point to those two states as models of forethought leading to financial independence. I have no problem with complaining as a private citizen of the U.S., of course. (Although other aspects of your argument were almost equally stupid). But your argument was that N.D. and Montana residents as a whole are somehow superior to Louisiana because they know how to fend for themselves is just laughable.
“Well they have to do with what states are in a position to bitch about having to pay for the needs of others.”
So states that receive less can “bitch” more than states that receive more? Or states that receive more can’t bitch at all? What’s your point? And could you offer a cite for your $ figures?
"If N.D. and Montana are bigger parasites on the federal budget than Louisiana (and the vast majority of states in the union), then it’s particularly dumb to point to those two states as models of forethought leading to financial indepedence. "
It’s nice to know that you separate states as parasites and feeders. Where did I talk about “models of forethought leading to financial independence”?
'I have no problem with complaining as a private citizen of the U.S., of course. (Although other aspects of your argument were almost equally stupid)."
Care to re-write these two sentences? Because you just said that I was stupid for complaining as a private citizen of the U.S. Or something like that. And what made you think that I wasn’t posting “as a private citizen of the U.S.”?
“But your argument was that N.D. and Montana residents as a whole are somehow superior to Louisiana because they know how to fend for themselves is just laughable”
Knowing how to fend for yourself is laughable because?
