Week 11 CFB -- Which AP Top 25 team(s) will lose?

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Scoring for this week’s poll is as follows:

  1. Pick a team to LOSE and they LOSE – +1 point

  2. Pick a team to LOSE and they WIN – -1 point

  3. Fail to pick a LOSER in a game involving two Top 25 teams-- -1 point
    (two Top 25 teams playing – one must lose)

  4. Pick both teams to LOSE in a game involving two Top 25 teams-- -1 point
    (two Top 25 teams playing – one must lose)

##### NOTE WELL: The rankings are a mix of this week’s AP and last week’s CFP

New CFP numbers will be available Tuesday.

For our purposes of picking losers, all ranked teams – in either system –
that are playing this week are in this week’s poll.

@@@, ###, &&&, $$$, %%%, *** = must pick one or the other!

NCAAF Scores & Schedule
Top 25 FBS

Week: 11



--- Thursday, November 6 

7:30 PM EST    (21) Clemson       @  Wake Forest 

--- Saturday, November 8 

 3:30 PM EST   Texas A&M          @ (3) Auburn   
12:00 PM EST   (11) Georgia       @ Kentucky   
12:00 PM EST   (25) Wisconsin     @ Purdue 
12:00 PM EST   Presbyterian       @ (4) Mississippi    
12:30 PM EST   (24) Duke          @ Syracuse 
         TBA   (13) Baylor        @ (18) Oklahoma      @@@
 3:30 PM EST   (10) Notre Dame    @ (14) Arizona St.   ###
 3:30 PM EST   (20) West Virginia @ Texas  
 4:00 PM EST   Tenn-Martin        @ (1) Mississippi St.   
 6:30 PM EST   Virginia           @ (2) Florida St.   
 7:00 PM EST   (22) UCLA          @ Washington  
 7:00 PM EST   (23) Marshall      @ Southern Miss 
 7:15 PM EST   (25) Louisville    @ Boston Coll.
 7:30 PM EST   (9) Kansas St.     @ (7) TCU            &&&
 8:00 PM EST   (16) Ohio St.      @ (8) Michigan St.   $$$
 8:00 PM EST   Colorado           @ (12) Arizona   
 8:00 PM EST   (6) Alabama        @ (19) LSU           %%%
10:00 PM EST   (5) Oregon         @ (17) Utah          ***


@@@, ###, &&&, $$$, %%%, *** = must pick one or the other!

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The AP Top 25 Poll – Week 11




 1 Mississippi State SEC           Record: 8-0 
 2 Florida State     ACC           Record: 8-0 
 3 Auburn            SEC           Record: 7-1 
 4 Alabama           SEC           Record: 7-1  %%%
 5 Oregon            Pac-12        Record: 8-1  ***
 6 TCU               Big 12        Record: 7-1  &&&
 7 Michigan State    Big Ten       Record: 7-1  $$$
 8 Notre Dame        Div I FBS Ind Record: 7-1  ### 
 9 Kansas State      Big 12        Record: 7-1  &&&
10 Baylor            Big 12        Record: 7-1  @@@
11 Arizona State     Pac-12        Record: 7-1  ###
12 Mississippi       SEC           Record: 7-2 
13 Ohio State        Big Ten       Record: 7-1  $$$
14 LSU               SEC           Record: 7-2  %%%
15 Nebraska          Big Ten       Record: 8-1 Week 12: Saturday, November 15 TBA @ Wisconsin 
16 Oklahoma          Big 12        Record: 6-2  @@@
17 Georgia           SEC           Record: 6-2 
19 Clemson           ACC           Record: 6-2 
20 Utah              Pac-12        Record: 6-2  ***
21 Arizona           Pac-12        Record: 6-2 
22 Duke              ACC           Record: 7-1 
23 Marshall          Conf USA      Record: 8-0 Week 11: Saturday, November 8  7:00 PM EST @ Southern Miss 
23 East Carolina                               Week 12: Thursday, November 13 7:00 PM EST @ Cincinnati
24 West Virginia     Big 12        Record: 6-3 
25 Wisconsin         Big Ten       Record: 6-2 Week 11: Saturday, November 8 12:00 PM EST @ Purdue 

Poll released: Nov 2


@@@, ###, &&&, $$$, %%%, *** = must pick one or the other!

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Last week’s thread: Week 10 CFB – Which AP Top 25 team(s) will lose?
from 10-26-2014, 02:04 PM
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Multiple choice poll on the way…

I forgot to pick between ND and ASU. ASU will lose.

Thanks for the note. I’ll fix it!

The poll choices show Ole Miss as #4, where Alabama should be, and Alabama at #6 where TCU should be, etc…looks like you used last weeks rankings for the poll choices.

Since the CFP Committee’s numbers don’t come out until Tuesday, this is a hybrid of last week’s CFP and this week’s AP. The Yahoo! schedule rankings are using the old CFP rankings (not the AP’s), so I’ve had to make do with both sets of rankings.

<< See NCAAF College Football Rankings - Yahoo Sports >> for the source numbers.

The important thing, it seems to me, is to provide as complete a list of the Top-Ranked teams so that Losers can be picked. Matching rankings is not the main objective.

And since the head-to-head games are labeled with the funky codes it ought not be too hard to avoid illogical poll choices.

Missing the head-to-head games will be a challenge as there are six such games, and thus twelve teams!

I guess this is the price we are having to pay for trying to cover the “Top 25” using two separate ranking systems. I figured getting started early outweighed getting it all in the CFP system. (It is way more work, though!) :slight_smile:

BTW, I did try to say all this in the OP! :smiley:

Early summary:



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                                                        ***  %%%  &&&   $$$    &&&    ###             @@@   ###    $$$  ***  @@@  %%%
                                MisSt  FlSt  Aub  Miss  Ore  Ala  TCU  MicSt  KanSt  NotDa  Geo  Ari  Bay  AriSt  OhSt  Uta  Okl  LSU  WVa  Cle  UCLA  Mar  Duk  Lou  Wis 
                                ========================================================================================================================================= 
basset hound              6                                                   KanSt  NotDa            Bay         OhSt  Uta       LSU   
excavating (for a mind)   5                                  Ala  ()   MicSt   ()    NotDa                              Uta  Okl   
Wolverine                (7)                                                  KanSt                   Bay (AriSt) OhSt  Uta       LSU  WVa  
Zeldar                    6                                  Ala              KanSt                   Bay  AriSt  OhSt  Uta   
                                ========================================================================================================================================= 
                                MisSt  FlSt  Aub  Miss  Ore  Ala  TCU  MicSt  KanSt  NotDa  Geo  Ari  Bay  AriSt  OhSt  Uta  Okl  LSU  WVa  Cle  UCLA  Mar  Duk  Lou  Wis 
                                ========================================================================================================================================= 
    4                   (24)      0      0    0     0    0    2    0     1      3      2     0    0    3    (2)     3    4    1    2    1    0     0    0    0    0    0  /(24)
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The head-to-head tally:



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(13) Baylor        @ (18) Oklahoma      @@@   4
(10) Notre Dame    @ (14) Arizona St.   ###  (4) 
(9) Kansas St.     @ (7) TCU            &&&   3
(16) Ohio St.      @ (8) Michigan St.   $$$   4
(6) Alabama        @ (19) LSU           %%%   4
(5) Oregon         @ (17) Utah          ***   4
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nm…

I see you’re using some kind of hybrid poll

Please read the OP and Post #5. Yahoo!'s schedule is using last week’s CFP numbers, which don’t get updated until Tuesday. Disregard the rankings, if you will. The teams in the poll are in somebody’s Top 25, and I figured what the hell. :slight_smile:

ETA: Posted before your edit. We cool!

Early Tuesday Update:



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                                                        ***  %%%  &&&   $$$    &&&    ###             @@@   ###    $$$  ***  @@@  %%%
                                MisSt  FlSt  Aub  Miss  Ore  Ala  TCU  MicSt  KanSt  NotDa  Geo  Ari  Bay  AriSt  OhSt  Uta  Okl  LSU  WVa  Cle  UCLA  Mar  Duk  Lou  Wis 
                                ========================================================================================================================================= 
basset hound              6                                                   KanSt  NotDa            Bay         OhSt  Uta       LSU   
BobLibDem                13     MisSt  FlSt  Aub  Miss       Ala  TCU                NotDa  Geo       Bay         OhSt  Uta                      UCLA       Duk   
excavating (for a mind)   5                                  Ala  ()   MicSt   ()    NotDa                              Uta  Okl   
Wolverine                (7)                                                  KanSt                   Bay (AriSt) OhSt  Uta       LSU  WVa  
yellowjacketcoder         7                                                   KanSt  NotDa                        OhSt  Uta  Okl  LSU                       Duk   
Zeldar                    6                                  Ala              KanSt                   Bay  AriSt  OhSt  Uta   
                                ========================================================================================================================================= 
                                MisSt  FlSt  Aub  Miss  Ore  Ala  TCU  MicSt  KanSt  NotDa  Geo  Ari  Bay  AriSt  OhSt  Uta  Okl  LSU  WVa  Cle  UCLA  Mar  Duk  Lou  Wis 
                                ========================================================================================================================================= 
    6                   (44)      1      1    1     1    0    3    1     1      4      4     1    0    4    (2)     5    6    2    3    1    0     1    0    2    0    0  /(44)
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Head-to-head situation:



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(13) Baylor        @ (18) Oklahoma      @@@   6
(10) Notre Dame    @ (14) Arizona St.   ###  (6) 
(9) Kansas St.     @ (7) TCU            &&&   5
(16) Ohio St.      @ (8) Michigan St.   $$$   6
(6) Alabama        @ (19) LSU           %%%   6
(5) Oregon         @ (17) Utah          ***   6
################################################


Early Morning Wednesday Update:



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                                                        ***  %%%  &&&   $$$    &&&    ###             @@@   ###    $$$  ***  @@@  %%%
                                MisSt  FlSt  Aub  Miss  Ore  Ala  TCU  MicSt  KanSt  NotDa  Geo  Ari  Bay  AriSt  OhSt  Uta  Okl  LSU  WVa  Cle  UCLA  Mar  Duk  Lou  Wis 
                                ========================================================================================================================================= 
astorian                  6                             Ore       TCU                 ()                    ()    OhSt       Okl  LSU            UCLA
basset hound              6                                                   KanSt  NotDa            Bay         OhSt  Uta       LSU   
BobLibDem                13     MisSt  FlSt  Aub  Miss       Ala  TCU                NotDa  Geo       Bay         OhSt  Uta                      UCLA       Duk   
excavating (for a mind)   5                                  Ala  ()   MicSt   ()    NotDa                              Uta  Okl   
Nauplius                  6                                                   KanSt                        AriSt  OhSt  Uta  Okl  LSU
Wolverine                (7)                                                  KanSt                   Bay (AriSt) OhSt  Uta       LSU  WVa  
yellowjacketcoder         7                                                   KanSt  NotDa                        OhSt  Uta  Okl  LSU                       Duk   
Zakalwe                   6                                                   KanSt                   Bay  AriSt  OhSt  Uta       LSU 
Zeldar                    6                                  Ala              KanSt                   Bay  AriSt  OhSt  Uta    
Zyanthia                  7                                                   KanSt                        AriSt  OhSt  Uta  Okl  LSU                            Lou 
                                ========================================================================================================================================= 
                                MisSt  FlSt  Aub  Miss  Ore  Ala  TCU  MicSt  KanSt  NotDa  Geo  Ari  Bay  AriSt  OhSt  Uta  Okl  LSU  WVa  Cle  UCLA  Mar  Duk  Lou  Wis 
                                ========================================================================================================================================= 
    10                  (69)      1      1    1     1    1    3    2     1      7      4     1    0    5    (5)     9    9    5    7    1    0     2    0    2    1    0  /(69)
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The head-to-head breakdown:



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(13) Baylor        @ (18) Oklahoma      @@@   10
(10) Notre Dame    @ (14) Arizona St.   ###   (9) 
(9) Kansas St.     @ (7) TCU            &&&    9
(16) Ohio St.      @ (8) Michigan St.   $$$   10
(6) Alabama        @ (19) LSU           %%%   10
(5) Oregon         @ (17) Utah          ***   10
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This week I’ve got Oregon, Kansas State, Michigan State, Notre Dame, Baylor and LSU to lose.

Wednesday Evening Update:



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                                                        ***  %%%  &&&   $$$    &&&    ###             @@@   ###    $$$  ***  @@@  %%%
                                MisSt  FlSt  Aub  Miss  Ore  Ala  TCU  MicSt  KanSt  NotDa  Geo  Ari  Bay  AriSt  OhSt  Uta  Okl  LSU  WVa  Cle  UCLA  Mar  Duk  Lou  Wis 
                                ========================================================================================================================================= 
astorian                  6                             Ore       TCU                 ()                    ()    OhSt       Okl  LSU            UCLA
basset hound              6                                                   KanSt  NotDa            Bay         OhSt  Uta       LSU   
BobLibDem                13     MisSt  FlSt  Aub  Miss       Ala  TCU                NotDa  Geo       Bay         OhSt  Uta                      UCLA       Duk   
excavating (for a mind)   5                                  Ala  ()   MicSt   ()    NotDa                              Uta  Okl   
Nauplius                  6                                                   KanSt                        AriSt  OhSt  Uta  Okl  LSU
Oakminster                6                             Ore            MicSt  KanSt  NotDa            Bay                         LSU
Oredigger77               6                                  Ala  TCU                       Geo            AriSt  OhSt  Uta  Okl
Snowboarder Bo            6                                  Ala              KanSt                        AriSt  OhSt  Uta  Okl
Wolverine                (7)                                                  KanSt                   Bay (AriSt) OhSt  Uta       LSU  WVa  
yellowjacketcoder         7                                                   KanSt  NotDa                        OhSt  Uta  Okl  LSU                       Duk   
Zakalwe                   6                                                   KanSt                   Bay  AriSt  OhSt  Uta       LSU 
Zeldar                    6                                  Ala              KanSt                   Bay  AriSt  OhSt  Uta    
zoog                      6                                  Ala              KanSt  NotDa                        OhSt  Uta  Okl 
Zyanthia                  7                                                   KanSt                        AriSt  OhSt  Uta  Okl  LSU                            Lou 
                                ========================================================================================================================================= 
                                MisSt  FlSt  Aub  Miss  Ore  Ala  TCU  MicSt  KanSt  NotDa  Geo  Ari  Bay  AriSt  OhSt  Uta  Okl  LSU  WVa  Cle  UCLA  Mar  Duk  Lou  Wis 
                                ========================================================================================================================================= 
    14                  (93)      1      1    1     1    2    6    3     2     10      6     2    0    6    (7)    12    12   8    8    1    0     2    0    2    1    0  /(93)
=========================================================================================================================================================================


Head-to head status:



################################################# 
(13) Baylor        @ (18) Oklahoma      @@@   14
(10) Notre Dame    @ (14) Arizona St.   ###  (13) 
(9) Kansas St.     @ (7) TCU            &&&   13
(16) Ohio St.      @ (8) Michigan St.   $$$   14
(6) Alabama        @ (19) LSU           %%%   14
(5) Oregon         @ (17) Utah          ***   14
#################################################



Thursday Morning Summary.

Please be sure your votes have been accounted for correctly!



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                                                        ***  %%%  &&&   $$$    &&&    ###             @@@   ###    $$$  ***  @@@  %%%
                                MisSt  FlSt  Aub  Miss  Ore  Ala  TCU  MicSt  KanSt  NotDa  Geo  Ari  Bay  AriSt  OhSt  Uta  Okl  LSU  WVa  Cle  UCLA  Mar  Duk  Lou  Wis 
                                ========================================================================================================================================= 
astorian                  6                             Ore       TCU                 ()                    ()    OhSt       Okl  LSU            UCLA
basset hound              6                                                   KanSt  NotDa            Bay         OhSt  Uta       LSU   
BobLibDem                13     MisSt  FlSt  Aub  Miss       Ala  TCU                NotDa  Geo       Bay         OhSt  Uta                      UCLA       Duk   
dba Fred                  6                                                   KanSt                        AriSt  OhSt  Uta  Okl  LSU
excavating (for a mind)   5                                  Ala  ()   MicSt   ()    NotDa                              Uta  Okl   
JohnT                     6                                                   KanSt                   Bay  AriSt  OhSt  Uta       LSU
Nauplius                  6                                                   KanSt                        AriSt  OhSt  Uta  Okl  LSU
Oakminster                6                             Ore            MicSt  KanSt  NotDa            Bay                         LSU
Oredigger77               7                                  Ala  TCU                       Geo            AriSt  OhSt  Uta  Okl
Ponch8                    7            FlSt                       TCU                NotDa            Bay         OhSt  Uta       LSU 
Snowboarder Bo            6                                  Ala              KanSt                        AriSt  OhSt  Uta  Okl
Wolverine                (7)                                                  KanSt                   Bay (AriSt) OhSt  Uta       LSU  WVa  
yellowjacketcoder         7                                                   KanSt  NotDa                        OhSt  Uta  Okl  LSU                       Duk   
Zakalwe                   6                                                   KanSt                   Bay  AriSt  OhSt  Uta       LSU 
Zeldar                    6                                  Ala              KanSt                   Bay  AriSt  OhSt  Uta    
zoog                      6                                  Ala              KanSt  NotDa                        OhSt  Uta  Okl 
Zyanthia                  7                                                   KanSt                        AriSt  OhSt  Uta  Okl  LSU                            Lou 
                                ========================================================================================================================================= 
                                MisSt  FlSt  Aub  Miss  Ore  Ala  TCU  MicSt  KanSt  NotDa  Geo  Ari  Bay  AriSt  OhSt  Uta  Okl  LSU  WVa  Cle  UCLA  Mar  Duk  Lou  Wis 
                                ========================================================================================================================================= 
    17                 (113)      1      2    1     1    2    6    4     2     12      7     2    0    8    (9)    15    15   9    11   1    0     2    0    2    1    0  /(113)
=========================================================================================================================================================================


Head-to-head counts:



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(13) Baylor        @ (18) Oklahoma      @@@   17
(10) Notre Dame    @ (14) Arizona St.   ###  (16) 
(9) Kansas St.     @ (7) TCU            &&&   16
(16) Ohio St.      @ (8) Michigan St.   $$$   17
(6) Alabama        @ (19) LSU           %%%   17
(5) Oregon         @ (17) Utah          ***   17
#################################################


The results:



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                                  W     W     L    W     W   W    W     L      L      L     W    W    W     W      W     L   L    L    L    W    W     W    W    W    W
                                                        ***  %%%  &&&   $$$    &&&    ###             @@@   ###    $$$  ***  @@@  %%%
                                MisSt  FlSt  Aub  Miss  Ore  Ala  TCU  MicSt  KanSt  NotDa  Geo  Ari  Bay  AriSt  OhSt  Uta  Okl  LSU  WVa  Cle  UCLA  Mar  Duk  Lou  Wis 
                                ========================================================================================================================================= 
astorian                  6                             Ore       TCU                 ()                    ()    OhSt       Okl  LSU            UCLA
basset hound              6                                                   KanSt  NotDa            Bay         OhSt  Uta       LSU   
BobLibDem                13     MisSt  FlSt  Aub  Miss       Ala  TCU                NotDa  Geo       Bay         OhSt  Uta                      UCLA       Duk   
dba Fred                  6                                                   KanSt                        AriSt  OhSt  Uta  Okl  LSU
excavating (for a mind)   5                                  Ala  ()   MicSt   ()    NotDa                              Uta  Okl   
JohnT                     6                                                   KanSt                   Bay  AriSt  OhSt  Uta       LSU
Nauplius                  6                                                   KanSt                        AriSt  OhSt  Uta  Okl  LSU
Oakminster                6                             Ore            MicSt  KanSt  NotDa            Bay                         LSU
Oredigger77               7                                  Ala  TCU                       Geo            AriSt  OhSt  Uta  Okl
Ponch8                    7            FlSt                       TCU                NotDa            Bay         OhSt  Uta       LSU 
Snowboarder Bo            6                                  Ala              KanSt                        AriSt  OhSt  Uta  Okl
Wolverine                (7)                                                  KanSt                   Bay (AriSt) OhSt  Uta       LSU  WVa  
yellowjacketcoder         7                                                   KanSt  NotDa                        OhSt  Uta  Okl  LSU                       Duk   
Zakalwe                   6                                                   KanSt                   Bay  AriSt  OhSt  Uta       LSU 
Zeldar                    6                                  Ala              KanSt                   Bay  AriSt  OhSt  Uta    
zoog                      6                                  Ala              KanSt  NotDa                        OhSt  Uta  Okl 
Zyanthia                  7                                                   KanSt                        AriSt  OhSt  Uta  Okl  LSU                            Lou 
                                ========================================================================================================================================= 
                                MisSt  FlSt  Aub  Miss  Ore  Ala  TCU  MicSt  KanSt  NotDa  Geo  Ari  Bay  AriSt  OhSt  Uta  Okl  LSU  WVa  Cle  UCLA  Mar  Duk  Lou  Wis 
                                ========================================================================================================================================= 
    17                 (113)      1      2    1     1    2    6    4     2     12      7     2    0    8    (9)    15    15   9    11   1    0     2    0    2    1    0  /(113)
=========================================================================================================================================================================


The scores:



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                                  W     W     L    W     W    W    W     L      L      L     W    W    W     W      W    L    L    L    L    W    W     W    W    W    W
                                                        ***  %%%  &&&   $$$    &&&    ###             @@@   ###    $$$  ***  @@@  %%%
                                MisSt  FlSt  Aub  Miss  Ore  Ala  TCU  MicSt  KanSt  NotDa  Geo  Ari  Bay  AriSt  OhSt  Uta  Okl  LSU  WVa  Cle  UCLA  Mar  Duk  Lou  Wis 
                                ========================================================================================================================================= 
yellowjacketcoder      +3/7                                                     +1     +1                          -1    +1   +1   +1                        -1  

excavating (for a mind)+2/5                                   -1  (-1)   +1     ()     +1                                +1   +1    
basset hound           +2/6                                                     +1     +1              -1          -1    +1        +1   
dba Fred               +2/6                                                     +1                           -1    -1    +1   +1   +1
Nauplius               +2/6                                                     +1                           -1    -1    +1   +1   +1
Oakminster             +2/6                              -1              +1     +1     +1              -1                          +1
zoog                   +2/6                                   -1                +1     +1                          -1    +1   +1 

Wolverine             +1/(7)                                                    +1                     -1   (-1)   -1    +1        +1   +1  
Zyanthia               +1/7                                                     +1                           -1    -1    +1   +1   +1                             -1 

JohnT                   0/6                                                     +1                     -1    -1    -1    +1        +1
Snowboarder Bo          0/6                                   -1                +1                           -1    -1    +1   +1
Zakalwe                 0/6                                                     +1                     -1    -1    -1    +1        +1 

Ponch8                 -1/7             -1                         -1                  +1              -1          -1    +1        +1 

Zeldar                 -2/6                                   -1                +1                     -1    -1    -1    +1    

astorian               -3/6                              -1        -1                 (-1)                   ()    -1         +1   +1             -1 
Oredigger77            -3/7                                   -1   -1                        -1              -1    -1    +1   +1

BobLibDem             -7/13       -1    -1    +1   -1         -1   -1                  +1    -1        -1          -1    +1                       -1         -1   
                                ========================================================================================================================================= 
                                MisSt  FlSt  Aub  Miss  Ore  Ala  TCU  MicSt  KanSt  NotDa  Geo  Ari  Bay  AriSt  OhSt  Uta  Okl  LSU  WVa  Cle  UCLA  Mar  Duk  Lou  Wis 
                                ========================================================================================================================================= 
    17                 (113)      1      2    1     1    2    6    4     2     12      7     2    0    8    (9)    15    15   9    11   1    0     2    0    2    1    0  /(113)
=========================================================================================================================================================================


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Since the hodgepodge of AP and CFP rankings was confusing this past week, and since my source for the schedules uses the CFP rankings (Yahoo!), I will delay this next week’s poll/thread until after Tuesday’s updating of the CFP numbers.

Trying to get the whole thing in AP terms is just not worth the extra work. I have no issue with someone else taking that extra trouble to get a new poll/thread up earlier than Tuesday.

I agree with simplifying the poll numbers.

New season standings:


Name                         Total  Wk01  Wk02  Wk03  Wk04  Wk05  Wk06  Wk07  Wk08  Wk09  Wk10  Wk11  Wk12  Wk13  Wk14
Zakalwe                       10      1     2    -1     1    -1     2     2     1     0     3     0               
excavating (for a mind)        7     '0'   -1    '0'    2    -2     2     1    -1    '0'    4     2               
zoog                           7     '0'   '0'   '0'    1     0    -2     2     2     2     0     2               
Nauplius                       5      2    -1    -1     1     1     0     0     2    -3     2     2               
Oakminster                     4      4    -2    -1     3    -2    -4     1     1     0     2     2               
Barkis is Willin'              2     '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'    2    '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'              
Frosted Glass                  2      2    '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'              
Snupzilla                      2      2    '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'              
tonyfop                        2     '0'    3    '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   -1    '0'   '0'              
USCDiver                       2      2    '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'              
basset hound                   1      0    '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   -1    '0'    2               
Chingon                        1     '0'   '0'   '0'   -2    '0'   '0'   '0'    3    -1     1    '0'              
doverpro                       1      1    '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'              
Mince                          1      1    '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'              
Really Not All That Bright     1      1    '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'              
yellowjacketcoder              1     '0'   '0'   '0'    2    '0'   '0'   -1    '0'   -3    '0'    3               
Doctor Who                    -1      2    -2    -1    '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'              
Labrador Deceiver             -1     '0'   '0'   -1    '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'              
LonghornDave                  -1     -1    '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'              
Pai325                        -1     -1    '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'              
RetroVertigo                  -1     '0'   -1    '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'              
Sterling Archer               -1      0    '0'   -1    '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'              
armedmonkey                   -2     '0'    0    -1     2    -2    -3    -1     3    '0'   '0'   '0'              
bump                          -2     -1    -1    '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'              
jsc1953                       -2     -3     2    '0'   -3    -1    '0'   '0'    0    -1     4    '0'              
Quintas                       -2     '0'   '0'   '0'   -2    '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'              
The Universe Lashes Out       -2     '0'   -1    '0'   '0'   -1    '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'              
Snowboarder Bo                -3      1    '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   -3    -3     2     0               
dba Fred                      -4     '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   -2    -4     2               
Hook                          -4     '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   -4    '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'              
HubZilla                      -4     '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   -4    '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'              
susan                         -4     -4    '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'              
Zeldar                        -4      0    -1     0    -1    -1    -2     3    -2    -2     4    -2               
janeslogin                    -6     '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   -6    '0'   '0'   '0'              
Typo Negative                 -6     -3    -3    '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'   '0'              
Zyanthia                      -7     -1     0    -3     1    -2     0     2    -4    -3     2     1               
Oredigger77                   -8     '0'    0     0    '0'   -2    '0'    0    '0'   -2    -1    -3               
Ponch8                        -8     '0'   '0'   '0'   -1    -2    -4    -1    '0'   '0'    1    -1               
JohnT                         -9      0    '0'   -3    '0'   -2     1     1    '0'   -2    -4     0               
astorian                     -11      0    -2    -2    -3    -2    -3     1     3    '0'    0    -3               
Wolverine                    -13      1     1    -2     0    -1    -3     1    -5    -3    -3     1               
BobLibDem                    -53     -5    -9    -7    '0'   -4     1    -1    -10   -6    -5    -7               


‘0’ means did not play that week (counts as 0). Underlined name means played in the most recent week.

Okay, wait. Somehow I misread this. The name of the thread has always been “Which AP Top…”. Why do you need to wait on the CFP ranking late Tuesday night? If any of the teams are playing on Thursday that gives you less than 48 hours to complete the poll. I say stick with the AP.

Yahoo!'s schedules are now based on CFP rankings, so the schedule that will appear after today’s AP numbers are released will have last week’s CFP rankings determining which teams appear on the “Top 25 FBS” schedule. To get the new thread/poll in AP terms means digging around to find those games and adding them to the schedule manually. Then after the new CFP numbers arrive Tuesday, fixing things again.

AP would be great, but Yahoo! decided to mix-and-match their reporting.

As I said, I have no problem with somebody else doing what it takes – using some other source than Yahoo! – to get the new week’s poll in AP terms.

To expand on the general confusion involving rankings and “Top 25” and so on,
here’s how things look before the new AP rankings appear later today (noonish?)

Sources:




Standings -- Bowl Subdivision  --  Teams   
  
AP Rankings (Sun Nov 2)          CFB Selection Committee
                                     (Tue Nov 4)
Mississippi State (1)    5-0 9-0          1
Florida State (2)        6-0 9-0          2
Marshall (23)            5-0 9-0   

Oregon (5)               6-1 9-1          4

Alabama (4)              5-1 8-1          5 
TCU (6)                  5-1 8-1          6 
Baylor (10)              5-1 8-1         12
Arizona State (11)       5-1 8-1          9
Ohio State (13)          5-0 8-1         14
Nebraska (15)            4-1 8-1         13
Duke (22)                4-1 8-1         22 

Ole Miss (12)            4-2 8-2         11
UCLA (18)                5-2 8-2         18

Auburn (3)               4-2 7-2          3
Michigan State (7)       4-1 7-2          8
Notre Dame (8)           1-0 7-2         10
Kansas State (9)         5-1 7-2          7 
Georgia (17)             5-2 7-2         20
Clemson (19)             6-1 7-2         21
Arizona (21)             4-2 7-2         19
Wisconsin (25)           4-1 7-2         25

LSU (14)                 3-3 7-3         16

Oklahoma (16)            3-3 6-3         15
Utah (20)                3-3 6-3         17

West Virginia (24)       4-3 6-4         23 

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Colorado State           5-1 9-1   

Georgia Tech             5-2 8-2         24
Georgia Southern         7-0 8-2   

Minnesota                4-1 7-2   
Northern Illinois        4-1 7-2   
Boise State              4-1 7-2   
Air Force                3-2 7-2   
Missouri                 4-1 7-2  

Louisville               5-3 7-3   
Louisiana Tech           6-0 7-3   
Utah State               4-1 7-3   
Texas A&M                3-3 7-3   

East Carolina            3-1 6-2   

Memphis                  4-1 6-3   
Miami (FL)               3-2 6-3   
Maryland                 3-2 6-3   
Iowa                     3-2 6-3   
Rice                     4-1 6-3   
Bowling Green            4-1 6-3   
Toledo                   5-0 6-3   
Western Michigan         4-1 6-3   
Nevada                   3-2 6-3   
USC                      5-2 6-3   
Louisiana-Lafayette      5-0 6-3   
Arkansas State           4-1 6-3   

Boston College           3-3 6-4   
Central Michigan         4-2 6-4   
Washington               2-4 6-4   



It may be fun to try to predict what the new AP and CFP rankings will be from these results.

And if you want to see Yahoo’s current version of next weekend’s games, look at

If there’s a better source for AP-based schedules for Week 12, please point me to it! :slight_smile:

I have to do it manually for other reasons, so here:


12:00P	#8 Ohio St	@	Minnesota
12:00P	#18 Clemson	@	#24 Georgia Tech
12:00P	Virginia Tech	@	#19 Duke
2:30P	Rice	@	#21 Marshall
3:00P	#5 TCU	@	Kansas
3:30P	#1 Miss St	@	#4 Alabama
3:30P	Northwestern	@	#15 Notre Dame
3:30P	#11 Nebraska	@	#22 Wisconsin
3:30P	Washington	@	#17 Arizona
6:00P	#25 Utah	@	Stanford
7:15P	#9 Auburn	@	#16Georgia
8:00P	#2 Florida St	@	Miami (FL)
8:00P	#12 Mich St	@	Maryland
8:00P	#20 LSU	@	Arkansas
10:45P	#7 Arizona St	@	Oregon St


Good deal! I’ll post this week’s poll with no further ado from your numbers!

Thanks!