Please, don’t impose your personal preferences on other people when they have no effect on you whatsoever. It’s just common courtesy.
Heh. I was blaming my browser.
Obviously it does have an effect on me because I’m cheesed off. If it makes so little difference to you then just take the topper off and we’re both happy.
I have no real preference on the hat thing but this statement is way out of line.
Because something pisses you off - a stranger in a public restaurant I should modify my behaviour to accomodate you? Oh hell no.
As Moonlitherial says, hell no. What personal preferences of yours am I supposed to bow to next? Don’t like my haircut? My beard? My shoes? You don’t like that I wear shorts and socks with sandals? Wearing white after Labor Day? You don’t like the Cincinnati Bengals logo on my shirt? You don’t like the fact that I’m in a mixed-race group? You don’t like my religion? You don’t want me speaking in a different language in public?
If you’re cheesed off at something that’s none of your damn business, it’s on you to teach yourself to stop being cheesed off. It’s not on me to accommodate you.
Taking your hat off when you’re indoors is one of the more basic signs of courtesy.
Wearing a hat has two principal purposes; to shade your eyes and to keep your head warm. Looking good is just a keen side-effect. Do you need those two main benefits indoors?
Keeping your 19th century standards in the Victorian era where they belong is one of the more basic signs of courtesy.
It’s not up to you to decide for me what the purposes of my clothing choices are.
NO!
You indoor hat-bearers are conflating this issue with religion needlessly. Also I’ll have to see a picture of your beard before I make I my mind because I actually have VERY SPECIFIC ideas of what constitutes a good beard for a person.
Wearing a hat inside is more in the line of wandering around with your fly open.
Actually I would consider not inflicting your views on others when what they are doing is causing you no physical harm or disturbance a much more basic sign of courtesy.
I’m female and don’t often wear hats and according to your same archaic rule set I’m actually exempt from the remove hats while indoors rule but what I choose to wear is up to me. You are certainly free to judge me for it, we all do but you can’t cry “it’s a courtesy” out of one side of your mouth while actually telling people what do do out of the other without being a giant hypocrite.
I used to eat at a local pizza place, always getting take-out (they were practically next door to my house).
When I took my parents there for a sit-down dinner, we ordered the usual pizza. What they brought to the table, however, was a tiny lunch pizza instead of the full sized one. When I pointed it out, they commented that take out was a large one, and if you eat in, you pay the same but get the small one. WTF?
Never darkened their door again. Too bad, it was great pizza.
Once my hat goes on, it stays on until I get home. Hat Hair wasn’t a problem in the greasy days of the Wet Head and universal short hair but the Wet Head is dead and my hair isn’t short.
Blind adherence to arbitrary rules, particularly in the face of changing conditions …
You’re balding. That’s no reason to betray humanity by wearing your hat inside. It’s fine. Take it off and let us see your cheeky pate.
Can we please get back to the stupid restaurant rules and away from the stupid hat ones? This hijack’s gone on so long that I thought campp was posting in the wrong thread at first.
Agreed, but I still want to see a photo of ascenray’s beard in this silly thread.
Otherwise he is all talk and no STOKE.
You’ll have to take it on faith that I have a beard. I do not, however, have a shirt with a Cincinnati Bengals logo.
I would think not being a raging asshole to strangers in public is the most bacis sign of courtesy. The only thing that would happen if you* said some bullshit like that to me is me telling you* to, “Fuck off, cunt.” and then aftward me thinking your the biggest fucking cunt on the planet.
Wearing clothes has one priciple purpose; to keep you warm. When you are inside do you need that benefit? Fuck no. Take all your clothes off at the door or you’re a fucking “GIANT IDIOT”.
*General you, male or female.
EDIT: Also those Cedric the Entertainer hats are pretty sweet. I think I’ll get one.
I’ve always considered taking one’s hat off at the table (not necessarily at all times indoors, but definitely when sitting down for a meal) is just something you do. Like keeping your elbows off the table or chewing with your mouth closed. Or, yeah, not walking around with your fly open.
I’m not partitularly offended if you don’t doff the headgear, but I will think you just don’t know any better, and it never occured to me that it’s a hill anybody would choose to die on. Huh.
Good show.
I remember a German Restaurant that didn’t have any condiments or seasonings on the table. If you asked for salt, they would argue with you. I have no idea what would have happened if I had asked Ketchup. Apparently the owner was also the head cook and didn’t like customers second guessing him.
Nothing necessarily wrong with these policies, but they are unusual, and in at least one case, understandable:
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Pizzeria Uno/Due in downtown Chicago – you place your order before you’re even seated…because the pies are made to order and they take 45 minutes.
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Gene & Jude’s in River Grove, IL…well, it’s a hot dog joint, I don’t know if you’d call it a restaurant…but one of the owners does NOT allow ketchup on the premises AT ALL due to the paranoia of the possibility of someone poisoning a hot dog with ketchup (which, years ago, as proven in at least one TSD column, is NOT A CHICAGO THING; it’s a common practice!). At least…that’s a policy enforced on the employees; I don’t know if they’ll boot a customer out for bringing, say, a ketchup package from the next-door McDonald’s…
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I don’t know if it’s so much policy, but I’ve noticed that Chinese restaurants tend to be skimpy with duck sauce but give you a seemingly bottomless supply of soy sauce and plenty of hot mustard. Even if you ask for extra and they smile and say “Sure!” they won’t give you extra. I’ve posted about that on this board before, and some responded with the possibility that it could be that duck sauce is expensive. Well…let me tell ya something…my wife went to our favorite Chinese place and asked them where they get their supply of duck sauce, and they said it was from a business-to-business supplier. They offered to order an extra box of the stuff the next time they had to refill the order. The price? Eight bucks for a 12" x 12" x 8" cardboard box jammed with duck sauce packets. Seems pretty cheap to me. (And the kicker? When she picked it up, they gave it to her for FREE!) And that?..was my birthday present one year.
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And of course there are the places that enforce illegal credit card minimums. I really do want to carry around that little thing that the Chicago Sun-Times’ “The Fixer” has available that you can print out and leave it at offending places spelling out why it’s a violation to enforce card rules…I really want to carry a stash of those around and tape 'em up next to those annoying “Credit Card $10 Minimum” signs…
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The Original Soup Man – the rules are posted in his soup restaurants, and they pretty much reflect the same rules followed in the infamous Seinfeld episode. But one rule really sticks out: “No N-word.” ha!
(And btw, I also don’t see the point of removing a hat in a restaurant. What’s the big freakin’ deal? Why is it impolite? If you don’t like it, don’t look. An extra covering on your body is NOT the same as leaving your fly open and giving your schlong a chance to escape. Besides, what if you take off your hat, but then some ceiling plaster falls on your head and messes up your hair right before a potential business client shows up at your lunch appointment? Boy, you’ll wish you had your hat on in the first place!)